Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 07:31 pm, by: Shane Ilich(Ferret)
OK, left my car parked in the uni carpark yesterday, had managed to keep it garaged during the extreme heat we've had here in Perth for the last few days, but didnt have a choice yesterday and had to park it in the sun all day.
Got in the car yesterday afternoon, and discovered the roof lining has sagged from the roof of the car, and is hanging down, essentially half-obscuring my view from the rear-view mirror.
Anyone come across this before? Any suggestions on reattaching it? I'd prefer not to have to remove it and reglue it, trying to figure out whether there's some way I can cut a small hole somewhere unobtrusive and spray in some adhesive or something. For the moment I'vegot magnets hoding the cloth lining up and out of the way so I can fully see out of the rear view.
Worse comes to worse, I'll take it to an interior trimmer and get them to redo it properly.
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 10:18 pm, by: Shane Ilich(Ferret)
It's been suggested to me that the only real logical explanation is to chop the roof, turn it into a convertible...saves the roof lining from coming loose again in the future
I think an upholsterer is going to have to be the go. I had a look at it tonight, I'll never get it looking neat. Gonna have to be a pro job
Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 03:21 am, by: Sean Fair(Sean_fair)
My roof lining sags too, not quite as bad as you describe though.
I pulled down my door/roof trim and I think I am going to try just using a light film of spray adhesive. It's not sagging too bad, so I think I will be able to do a good job myself.
However, it won't be happening until it warms up over here. You guys complain about it being to hot, I contend with snow and temperatures well into the negatives. No heated garage, either
If you could, watch how he does it and what products he uses. I'm sure a few of us would be interested in that info!
Dan McColl Goo Roo Victoria Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.
Friday, February 02, 2007 - 05:33 pm, by: James Harris(Haro)
Peter Nitschke wrote on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 07:58 pm:
Previous suggestions have been to use glue in a syringe.
just dont walk into your local servo/shop holding up the syringe in your search for a decent glue.
*** But on another note, this happend in my dad's old taxi and he just paid for someone to come out and do it, took them about 45 minutes and didnt cost that much from memory (i'd ask my father but he is in NZ.. bro)
Monday, February 05, 2007 - 12:09 pm, by: Leon Wright(Techman)
Shane, mine went like that on friday arvo. Jumped into my car, shut the door and it sagged onto my head!
I believe the method is to pull all the trim off, remove it along with the card board liner, spray adhesive and a coolish iron. Then refit, i'm sure it sounds much easier in theory!
Going to pull mine out and get a mate to repair it and put it back in again some time this week.
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:03 pm, by: Andrew McKenzie(Andymac)
Have had the same problem with my previous US made cars due to the Australian summer heat. The only way to do it properly is to remove the headlining, then have a motor trimmer remove the old headlining cloth, and use a new cloth/felt without a foam backing. The motor trimmer will scrape off the old foam from the cardboard/plastic} shell and glue the new cloth felt to the shell.
Dan McColl Goo Roo Victoria Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 01:16 pm, by: Dan McColl(Hoon)
Ok, Today I got exited. I had a can of spray adhesive (I now know you need at least 3) and some spare time. The car was already in the garage so I figured "I'll pull the rooflining out and re-glue it"
The procedures for pulling the lining out I'm sure are explained here somewhere or most likely in the archives, but it's not a hard job at all.
So next step, the lining is on the floor, peel the fabric off the backing CAREFULLY. The hardest bit is getting the foam to come off with the fabric. Main problem is you end up with bits of foam on the backing and bits on the fabric. Like this.
The drama with this is that if you miss by even 1 mm when putting it back on, you get lines and stuff show through. (like mine now does)
Any way. I thought it would be a good idea to peel back half, glue it. then do the other half. That way there should be half in the original position to assist with lining up the other half. Easy, I thought.
It's not that easy.
I did it on my own, but if you could rouse up 4 or 5 helpers would be ideal.
Anyway, I used spray contact adhesive, from Burson's, about $10 a can. Seemed to work well, only you need 3 cans to do the job. (I had 1, I also live 50 km from the nearest parts store.) So I ended up using a brush and some old contact glue I had laying around.
Follow the glue manufacturers instructions, and when it's tacky, very carefully lay the lining back over the backing and press into position. BE AWARE- you only get 1 go at it, so if it's in the wrong place TOO BAD. you will destroy it trying to remove it from fresh glue.
So anyway, now my lining doesn't sag, but it has lines in it. Sorry, no pics of the finished product, yet.
My Advice. 1, buy a good one from a wreckers. 2, buy a new one from Toyota 3, Pay a GOOD trimmer to do the work.
In that order. Unless you have done trimming and stuff before, it's probably best not to attempt it yourself.
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:34 am, by: Leon Wright(Techman)
I just repaired mine this evening! Fortunately I had a friend who was experienced in repairing roof linings as he does most of the interior work on the vehicles he's owned.
Took 1 can of Septine (can't remember the spelling) Contact adhesive from Super Cheap. Peeled the lining back, brushed the crap off it, gave it a good spray on the lining and the material. Then the 2 of us with a little help from his daughter, carefully bit by bit (after lining up the front section) smoothed it all the way to the back. Was a little offline, but the stretch in the material was pretty forgiving. After smoothing it firmly, got the vacuum out (using the 3 inch wide flat attachment) went over the entire thing.
Trimmed over hang from the stretch and refitted. Couldn't be happier, looks neat and in pretty good shape considering the condition of it in the first place. No wrinkles at all
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 03:21 pm, by: Adam Peterson(President)
Just a little idea.. and i know its a little odd but, if you place a layer of alfoil in the roof lining, will that repell a lot of heatsoak in the lining and inparticular the car cabin in hot days ?
Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 04:00 pm, by: Tim Appleton(Timbo)
Alfoil will reflect a lot of radiation, but will still conduct heat normally.
If the top of the roof was coated in alfoil (in place of your paint) then it would reflect a lot of the heat away from the roof intially. Once the heat has been absorbed by the roof then any layers of alfoil underneath will not reflect any heat unless there is an air gap. There will still be a fair bit of heat conducted once the air in the gap heats up.
You might try an experiment with a piece of alfoil glued to the underside of a piece of foam sitting in the sun, and see if it is cooler underneath than just an ordinary piece of foam sitting in the sun.
Insulating foam for marine engine bays has foil to reflect the heat, but that is different to what you are talking about as the foil is on the hot side.