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William Whiter
Tinkerer
werribee
soarer tt

Posts: 16
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 09:54 pm, by:  William Whiter (Transformer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey has any one got ant info on fitting a roll cage into a soarer !! i want to look in to some extra saftey ??
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

Posts: 554
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:02 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My perfect safety tip...

Insert a sharpened 1.5" x 4ft long solid stainless steel javelin into the steering column of your vehicle.

I guarantee you will drive safely.

Cheaper than a roll cage. A great conversation starter too.
Thomas Mulraney
TryHard
South Australia
JZZ30 TT

Posts: 118
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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:22 pm, by:  Thomas Mulraney (Mxt_imports) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what happens if you've got the electric seats and it gets jammed going forward!?
Justin Hughes
TryHard
VIC
V8 UZZ31 LTD

Posts: 453
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:34 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

awwwwwwwwwwwwwww - I've got the perfect sound effect for that !!!!!!!!!
David Ross
Tinkerer
Victoria
one single turbo VVTi and one TT

Posts: 37
Reg: 08-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 08:55 am, by:  David Ross (Mrsexpo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/1715/17856.html?1128046074
Ryan Rankovic
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

Posts: 109
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:20 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

are roll cages street legal?
James Harris
TryHard
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:42 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeh im pretty sure they are.

BUT,

They need to have a certain thickness of padding around the bars, and if they take up the back seats then your car must be changed to a TWO seater on the mod plate.
and speakin of mod plates, the whole thing should be... mod plated.
Miles Baker
TryHard
Vic
V8

Posts: 120
Reg: 08-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:55 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are a bunch of restrictions. Be sure to check with an engineer first.
Steve Patterson
TryHard
NSW
2x V8 LTD's

Posts: 110
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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 01:03 pm, by:  Steve Patterson (Violent_rumble) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No welds, bolted joints only and much more
http://www.cams.com.au/downloads/vehicles/safetycage/CAMSSafetyCageConventionalCertificateInfoJan05. pdf
Avin Luther
TryHard
vic
Soarer V8 uzz31

Posts: 196
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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 01:36 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anynoe ever rolled a soarer?
Steve Patterson
TryHard
NSW
2x V8 LTD's

Posts: 111
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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 02:30 pm, by:  Steve Patterson (Violent_rumble) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, but some friends and I once rolled a Datson bush-bomb out of a bog. It came off the side of a rally track and got stuck in the mud. We couldn't push it or pull it out so we rolled it sideways onto it's roof then quickly onto it wheels....does that count?
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

Posts: 559
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 03:36 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought a rolled one as a wreck, it was a huge accident and had belted quite a few things very firmly before finally stopping.

The outside was mashed, but the cabin was basically intact.

No one even scratched.
William Whiter
Tinkerer
werribee
soarer tt

Posts: 17
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 04:40 pm, by:  William Whiter (Transformer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks fellas
you can never be safe enough !!
Miles Baker
TryHard
Vic
V8

Posts: 122
Reg: 08-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 06:56 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welds are OK, as long as they are done by the manufacturer. They are saying if a kit cage is supplied, the kit can't require welding. This is because the manufacturer has to be CAMS certified, but the installer does not. Don't want any old tom, dick or me welding it.

Plus, those are the CAMS requirements. The street regulations are different.
Steve Patterson
TryHard
NSW
2x V8 LTD's

Posts: 114
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 07:37 pm, by:  Steve Patterson (Violent_rumble) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I was driving in manner that warranted a roll cage, I know which specs I'd prefer. Might also help if your pulled over by a poorly educated copper on a canary spree.
Brendan McGannon
Tinkerer
s.a
jzz30 factory manual

Posts: 10
Reg: 05-2006

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Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 11:00 pm, by:  Brendan McGannon (1jzspec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ahh the soarer and the roll cage convo many people have fought over this topic for quite some time now! im getting a 6 point cage installed in my car within the next few months (for drifting purposes),ill be sure to post up sum pics when it gets out of the panel shop!
Craig Webber
TryHard
Vic
TT

Posts: 386
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 07:51 am, by:  Craig Webber (Soarr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the purposes of drift was to drift not to roll.
Brendan McGannon
Tinkerer
s.a
jzz30 factory manual

Posts: 11
Reg: 05-2006

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Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:25 pm, by:  Brendan McGannon (1jzspec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha its for stiffening the boat like chassis of the soarer! stop that enemy of all drifters=chassis flex! and big cars with good suspension need it otherwise your wasting your time it will never handle unless the car is stiff enough to respond to the steering and throttle inputs,ive driven cars with and without cages and all i will say is 'it makes f****** big difference'
Craig Webber
TryHard
Vic
TT

Posts: 392
Reg: 07-2005

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 07:59 am, by:  Craig Webber (Soarr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck Brendan, It will be good see a soarer out on the track ripping it up.
Ben Socratous
TryHard
SA
Iv'e got less interior that all of you!!!

Posts: 342
Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, May 26, 2006 - 06:37 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Harper wrote on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:02 pm:

Insert a sharpened 1.5" x 4ft long solid stainless steel javelin into the steering column of your vehicle.




Old rusty spring steel would probably be more of a deterent!
Chelsie Keating
Tinkerer
WA
TT manual

Posts: 90
Reg: 09-2005

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 12:07 am, by:  Chelsie Keating (Chelsie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm pretty sure 6 point cages aren't street legal, i have one sitting in my shed, looked sexy as in the car, but a bit unpractical for every day driving. 4 point cages though, i think they are legal...

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