Soarer Central: Seatbelts

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Cameron Stanley
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Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:11 pm, by: Cameron Stanley (Camskea)

my seatbelts don't lock when pulled. I am guessing they no good then, is this a common problem? Anyone selling front seatbelts or know where in Melbourne to but ?

Tom Nicol
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Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 08:35 pm, by: Tom Nicol (Goosemonger)

Seatbelts won't always lock when tugged, try testing it whilst you are on a downward slope.

Kyle Wathen
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Monday, November 12, 2007 - 10:40 am, by: Kyle Wathen (Cspot)

My seatbelts lock fine, but don't retract properly by themselves sometimes.

I also wouldn't mind knowing of somewhere in Melb that could fix these issues. I assume it wouldn't be too hard a job as they all have to be changed at compliance anyway...

Cameron Stanley
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Monday, November 12, 2007 - 05:52 pm, by: Cameron Stanley (Camskea)

Thanks mate, so if they lock ok on a downward slope, they are ok?

Dave Billings
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 08:36 am, by: Dave Billings (Waveman1717)

Good luck mates, it may have something to do w/ the ABS and computer? Cheers

Mustafa Akgul
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 09:22 pm, by: Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy)

I hear a click from seat belts when i turn ignition off.
I also have same prob as I cant get mine to lock either allways free wheeling

Haydn Crandell
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:08 pm, by: Haydn Crandell (Haydn)

Cameron Stanley wrote on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:11 pm:
Cameron Stanley (Camskea)

my seatbelts don't lock when pulled. I am guessing they no good then, is this a common problem? Anyone selling front seatbelts or know where in Melbourne to but ?

pull it hard , like a quick tug so to speak lol the belt i mean .

Mustafa Akgul
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:26 pm, by: Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy)

Haydn Crandell wrote on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:08 pm:
pull it hard , like a quick tug so to speak lol the belt i mean .

I have been pulling real hard to no avail ...

Haydn Crandell
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:37 pm, by: Haydn Crandell (Haydn)

when did this start to happen?
i remember when i bought my soarer it did the same as yours, next day the dealer rang me and said he has a new set of seatbelts for my car and i need to go up and have them fitted asap.
mabe yours are the same deal .cheers

Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 07:08 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

The OEM belts use a proper inertial system - that is, they will not lock up unless there is a forward or reverse force acting on them. Park the car on a hill and it will probably work OK, likewise pull on the belt while accelerating or decelerating and it will most likely work too.

Of course I was under the impression that aussie rules forced importers to replace the high quality OEM belts with crappo locally made ones that are "safer" so maybe they are faulty.

David Vaughan
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Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 09:08 am, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

Muzzy

Miles Baker
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Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 12:52 pm, by: Miles Baker (Milesb)

Muz, I believe the OEM ones are not inertia reels - they have the little explosives to lock up in an accident.

Luke Nieuwhof
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Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 05:35 pm, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

I have a quirk with my drivers seatbelt. If I lean forward it won't retract properly when I lean back again.
However If I unclip it for a second it will then retract, like there is an electrical switch somewhere. Does anyone know what issue this could be?

Mark Donovan
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Wellington
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Friday, November 16, 2007 - 02:37 pm, by: Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan)

Anyone know the approximate cost of replacing both sets of front belts as well as both retractor/tensioner assemblies? My drivers belt just failed its WOF because of slight fraying.

I've looked for a guide to removing the necessary interior cladding but haven't found anything here on SC.

Ben Ramsden
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Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 11:26 am, by: Ben Ramsden (Hound)

First thing to identify is if you have OEM belts or aftermarket Hemco or Autoliv belts.

If they have been replaced with Hemco/Autoliv belts, then you are looking at about 110-150 dollars each. When you take the reel out, the partnumber should be listed and also the mounting position. Im not sure with soarers but I think they are 90/90 reals (monting angles).

If they are OEM, then they have a standard dual lock tensioner and a pre tensioner. They are connected to the airbag system, so if you do remove them, as a precaution ensure the ignition is turned off before removal and stays off until they are fully connected again.

Don Bagnall
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Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 04:38 pm, by: Don Bagnall (Baggs)

Mark,

The Toyota part numbers for RH & LH replacement OE belts are.....

73210 - 24080 - 03 RH.

73220 - 24070 - 03 LH.

Don Bagnall
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Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 04:44 pm, by: Don Bagnall (Baggs)

You have to remove the rear trim panels under the 1/4 windows..........then all will be revealed.

ps: I've never priced em from Toyota, so don't know cost.
Might give Tasman Toyota a ring on Monday and ask the question

Evan Kaio
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Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 08:04 pm, by: Evan Kaio (Knave)

Mark, I'm sure I have a spare drivers belt.I'll check it out tomorrow.

Mark Donovan
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Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 06:40 am, by: Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan)

Thank you Ben, Don and Evan, your help much appreciated. The WOF was almost 3 weeks ago now, but I have been too busy to get on to sorting it out. The Soarer isn't used during the week now, so it's not been a priority but i have a months grace period to get it sorted and re-warranted free of charge before they charge me another $40-50 for another WOF, which is why I'm trying to get cracking on getting it sorted.

I can't get to my car at the moment but will be checking the belt for part numbers and brand to see if it's an original.

Evan, is your spare belt new?

Matthew Sharpe
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Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 06:48 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

I had to get a belt replaced about 5 years ago in my UZZ30 - I called a mobile guy who came out and replaced the belt with a matching colour (spruce)(but it was a webbed belt as is now required I believe) for $220 all up. I remember thinking it was a pretty good deal at the time, especially as he was fast, on time, and did a very good job, managing not to break any of the brittle old plastic. Can't remember the name of the company, and they probably don't have a branch in Welly, but that might give you an idea of what to pay.

Dave Billings
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Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 06:49 am, by: Dave Billings (Waveman1717)

Haydn Crandell wrote on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:08 pm:
pull it hard , like a quick tug so to speak lol the belt i mean .

Mustafa Akgul wrote on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:26 pm:
I have been pulling real hard to no avail

Evan Kaio
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Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 09:22 am, by: Evan Kaio (Knave)

Mark, the seat belts are used.They are Autoliv type.
I don't know weather they would pass WOF or not.

Mustafa Akgul
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Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 07:29 pm, by: Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy)

Dave Billings wrote on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 06:49 am:

Haydn Crandell wrote on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:08 pm:
pull it hard , like a quick tug so to speak lol the belt i mean .

Mustafa Akgul wrote on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:26 pm:
I have been pulling real hard to no avail