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Cameron Stanley
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Friday, July 25, 2008 - 11:31 am, by:  Cameron Stanley (Camskea) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone got any experience installing after market seats? Is is a basic operation? I did a search and could not find much. They guy at Autobarn reckons if the don't fit you can buy a kit to modify to make them fit. Anyone have experience with these?
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Matchy Loi
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Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:02 pm, by:  Matchy Loi (Ftk148) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd say that the ones they sell at Autobarn include universal rails, and more than likely they would require modification.

On the other hand, if you were to go for a branded product say sparco, bride, recaro etc. They usually will or can provide car specific rails.

One other thing, seats made for supras should fit in our soarers because we have the same rails.
Chris Dmochowski
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Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:23 pm, by:  Chris Dmochowski (Mr_chrisdmo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey you can buy supra seat rails monza brand about $70 each from Autobarn if the universal rails don't fit that's what I'm going to be doing.
Matt Petersen
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Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:53 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure if your saw my thread that I posted about interior modifications but I just fitted a set of Recaro's.

I had to buy a set of runners/rails and a set of mounts to make it bolt in.

I bought a set of universal dual lock runners and a set of Supra JZA80 seat mounts that supported Recaro's, Bride's, Sparco's etc.

They are awesome, a great upgrade. The only problem I have found is that the mounts are superlows and as I am only 5'7 they are a bit low for me but my old man at 6' loves them.

I would seriously only consider brand name seats like Recaro's, Sparco's or Bride. The other's just won't have the same quality and won't be as supportive or as comfortable.

My two Recaro's with rails and mounts weigh less than one factory seat!

matt.
Ryan McDonough
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Friday, July 25, 2008 - 07:34 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even supra seats are a great upgrade, and they bolt straight in. But they do sit you very low. Took a while to get used to.
James Harris
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Friday, July 25, 2008 - 10:37 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Honda S2000 seats bolt in also...
Cameron Stanley
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Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:31 pm, by:  Cameron Stanley (Camskea) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I cant figure out how these are possibly going to fit into my car! I got some universal rails also but they look pretty useless.
The only thing I can I can think of is to slightly cut some soarer seat rails and weld them properly on to these.......
I can get the welding done but I imagine this would require an engineering certificate of some sort, does anyone have any idea of where to go to get one, and cost??
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Matt Sartori
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Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:50 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you say you need to modify the rails, what does this include?

Got a pair of justjap bride copies here with universal rails, just curious as to what "modifying" is needed to make them fit.
Matt Petersen
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Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:52 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those are worthless. If you read my post above I bought some universal rails and seat mounts.

If you don't want forwards backwards movement then you could use those and chop the ears off the Soarer seats.

Personally I would spend the money and get good quality rails and some decent seat mounts then it's pretty much a bolt on deal and shouldn't need any certification.

Matt.
James Harris
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Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 04:59 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.more-japan.com/Nagisa-Auto-JZZ30-Soarer-SC300-Super-Low-Seat-Rail-SLR-p-16316.html
Jason Munro
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Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 11:47 pm, by:  Jason Munro (Jason_munro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

also, ANY aftermarket seating WILL REQUIRE an engineers cert.
(it's a safety thing)

Jason.
Luke Streat
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Monday, October 27, 2008 - 07:36 pm, by:  Luke Streat (Streatracer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


James Harris wrote on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 04:59 pm:

http://www.more-japan.com/Nagisa-Auto-JZZ30-Soarer-SC300-Super-Low-Seat-Rail-SLR-p-16316.html




$165USD=$273.462 AUD!!!!!!!!!
Thats some pretty expensive rails! Damn exchange rate!
Chris Prak
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Monday, October 27, 2008 - 11:14 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is what I did.


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The blue and green is what you normally get when you buy the universal rails, they didn't match the metal on the seat. So I welded the red metal strip onto the rail then bolted it. Make sure it is at least, I'd say 3mm thick and roughly 3cm's wide for stirdy support.

For the brackets, I used the straps and played around with them to match the bolts on the car floor. A LOT of mucking around. Better off buying supra rails and fit them onto the seat IMO.

All of this was welded together by a class 1 welder with an engineer certificate.
Lawrence Ostle
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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:24 am, by:  Lawrence Ostle (Lawrence) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


James Harris wrote on Friday, July 25, 2008 - 10:37 pm:

Honda S2000 seats bolt in also...


I don't think they do - it's a bit of an urban myth. Have a search of clublexus.com - it has been covered a LOT
Lawrence Ostle
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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:32 am, by:  Lawrence Ostle (Lawrence) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From clublexus:

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194055&highlight=s2000

'I've done a lot of searching and there are a wide variety of opinions on whether or not s2000 fit the sc300. People have said they "drop in" "just require a few washers" or "don't fit without a lot of fabrication". I bought s2000 seats today and here is the truth:

They don't drop in.

They don't require washers (can't figure out where that would have come from?).

The stock sc300 seats have 5 mounting points. 2 in front and three in the rear. The s2000 seats have 4. One of the front two mounting points lines up perfectly and if you shove the rail over a centimeter you can get the other front point lined up. On the rear they are not even close.

Also the stock seat belts do not click into the honda seat belt receptacles (what's the right word for this?). None of these problems are that difficult to overcome. I plan on making new mounting points through the floor pan of the car. Although I would caution others from unsystematically doing the same. You need to brace it just as you would an aftermarket safety harness. That means big steel plates. Remember what kind of forces the seat will be exsposed to in an accident...

The seats sit low. Almost too low in my opinion (which I would almost never say!), but it's just such a dramatic difference over stock. I'm going to give it a day or two before I decide if I'm going to keep them. Also it might feel more in place on a lowered car as mine is stock....'
Lawrence Ostle
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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:34 am, by:  Lawrence Ostle (Lawrence) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cameron if you are looking for 'drop in' seats, Supra ones really do bolt right in, no modifications at all.
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Scott Casey
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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 02:03 pm, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try supercheap auto for car specific seat rails
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 11:42 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow excellent Supra seats!

Very Schmick
Gary Swift
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Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 08:25 am, by:  Gary Swift (Garyswift87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, do you really need a engineers cert if you change the seats? If so how much is a cert?
Matt Petersen
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Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 08:31 am, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In New Zealand you do as the Soarer seats have the seatbelt mount on the seat frame.

Matt.
James Johnson
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Friday, February 05, 2010 - 09:06 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matt Petersen wrote on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 08:31 am:

In New Zealand you do as the Soarer seats have the seatbelt mount on the seat frame.




So where did you mount your seat belts Matt? I have just got some JAMEX seats and they came with "universal rails" and all I needed to buy were some jza80 brackets to mount the seats to the brackets then to the floor. The brackets have seat belt mountings but obviously they don't move with the seats so I have mounted them off the pivot point on the seats where the back connects to the base on the seats. Do you know if this is legal?
Matt Petersen
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Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 10:05 am, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't really know James.

I know that the mount point needs to be "certified" or factory. To use the mount points on the seat rails they would have had to xray the weld. If you use the seat or the rail then the rails are now taking all the force in an accident. They don't care about the rail quality if the seat belt is not mounted to it.

I had a LVV compliance place install a mount "kit" which were plates on either side of the trans tunnel rivetted together.

Matt.
Drew Fillion
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Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 06:05 am, by:  Drew Fillion (Xoriginalx) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lawrence, I must ask, where did you get that steering wheel from? I love it
Jack Driver
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Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 10:20 pm, by:  Jack Driver (Jacko) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would seats from an 86 Supra bolt straight in to mid 90's Soarer?
This is a very old model.
Jason Cheah
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Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 10:51 pm, by:  Jason Cheah (Freaky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only seats that bolt straight in are those from a JZA80 Supra.
Mark Bryant
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Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 07:52 am, by:  Mark Bryant (2jz_nat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i've also read some where that honda s2000 seats bolt up.not sure if this is 100% true but
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Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 08:25 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, its a myth.
Mark Bryant
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Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 08:32 am, by:  Mark Bryant (2jz_nat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha.ugly seat anyway.
Jack Driver
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Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 09:10 am, by:  Jack Driver (Jacko) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jason.
Your a "ledge"
Saved me an incorrect buy at the last minute!

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