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Matthew Salkeld
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South Australia
v8

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 01:45 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey hey,

Tried to open the door last night... nothing ><

I suspect that crappy plastic mechanism that operates the door has snapped.

Before I go and perform open heart surgery on the door, is there anything I should know about?

Ie. Can the clip be fixed with superglue?
Do I need a replacement part?
Do i need to sell my kidneys to fund this?
Need any special tools/special techniques to access it?

:-(
Cheers,
Matt
Brenton Trafford
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 02:08 pm, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First. DO NOT OPEN THE WINDOW!!!!!!

Then, check here:

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/9739/53292.html?1220055793

It's dead easy. The plastic part is cheap as so I wouldn't bother trying to glue it.
Brenton Trafford
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 02:09 pm, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PS Search is your friend.
Keenan Edinger
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 02:28 pm, by:  Keenan Edinger (Keenan585) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No need to sell the kidneys Mat, you'll need those most weekends!
Dmitriy Milyutin
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 02:32 pm, by:  Dmitriy Milyutin (Wetcoast_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry to hear this, Matt!

Is it driver's door? How many km on clock?

Good luck!
Matthew Salkeld
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:41 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah drivers side door... 141000 on the clock :-(

also I've already opened the window and the door is already apart in my garage as we speak :-)

much thanks for the link to the tutorial!

sorry, but WHERE is the search function i've been looking for it for a long time but can never find it ;o
Don Bagnall
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:25 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Brenton Trafford
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 05:10 pm, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Salkeld wrote on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:41 pm:

also I've already opened the window




Did you bust the bar?
Matthew Salkeld
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:54 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Don, no idea how i missed that :-(

and nah the bar seems to be ok... I tried to glue the clip back together and it didn't work.. also tried a bunch of other methods and they all failed. :-(

Looks like I'll have to get the clip from Toyota do they usually have them in stock?
Adam Lonergan
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 10:52 pm, by:  Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Castle Hill Toyota can post them same day if you order before lunch.
Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
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Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 05:06 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew, the bar is most likely bent from the window going down. You need to carefully straighten it so it fits in the proper hole easily. The bend is just where the pic shows one as broken on the tutorial.

I did mine about 2 years ago, and the new clip broke again recently, probably due to stress from not having the bar straight enough.

As the electric lock was also playing up, and I was concerned about the bar snapping due to having been bent before, I decided to remove the whole thing and do it properly.

Took a couple of hours, as it's not easy to maneuver the mechanism in and out past the window runner, but we found a dodgy solder joint and fixed that as well, which made it all worth while.

I also fitted a plastic zip lock thingy loosely around the bar and the door reinforcement so that if it breaks again, at least it can't fall down and get mangled by the window.

Any one that is into preventative maintenance might want to do the same thing.

Good excuse for a fixit day perhaps?
Don Bagnall
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Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 04:29 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soarer door rod clip: 69293-12050 (Drivers side)
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 10:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the part number is different for each side of the car.
Don Bagnall
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Friday, September 19, 2008 - 05:27 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's wot I sed.....
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, September 19, 2008 - 07:34 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew Salkeld
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 06:10 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alrighty I got the replacement clip.. the rod isn't bent :-)

Only problem is the new clip won't snap into the hole? it seems too big to fit in... even tried using pliers ><

any tips?
Paul Fitzsimmons
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 06:25 pm, by:  Paul Fitzsimmons (Oztif) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you putting the clip in first, then the rod into the clip?
Know what i mean?
Matthew Salkeld
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 07:16 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what a ballbreaker... just got the clip in then, only figured it out after many angry words that you're supposed to put the clip in the hole, then the rod into the clip...

:@ :@ :@ :@

Ah well all the more satisfying in the end i guess.

maybe somebody should update the tutorial to include a section on how to get the clip in?
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 07:37 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1) Find a friend with small double jointed wrists.

2) Practice and improve dexterity by putting on a bra and undoing it behind your back with one hand. (Don't get caught by your friends doing this, especially if you are a guy.)

3) Tackle the door clip.
Ryan Kalgoorlie
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Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 10:25 am, by:  Ryan Kalgoorlie (Ryankal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How's it going folks?

I'm new to this forum, just saying hello and asking for any helpful advice.

I've a 1991 V8 limited and although the car's in perfect condition I've had the usual problems i.e. Water in the headlight a few electrical dramas but I've sorted them myself with out loosing too much hair.

My latest problem was the driver's door decided die on me, so I removed the door trim, and realised the plastic housing that popped into the rear of the handle had sheared,Same as Matt here above.

I therefore replaced the plastic housing and everything was fine, however, This was only a temp solution as now 2 months on the steel bar has snapped due to fatigue, almost identical to the photo shown in peter's how to guide. I therefore fabricated up a new section from a higher grade steel and welded it altogether, so I’m hoping this work’s.

I was curious though would anyone have a how to guide to get the door mechanism out and then apart to replace that bar. I haven’t had it out yet and it looks like a rivet rather than a screw holding it in place. Just asking first, because if I take it out and can’t get it back together or in easy again I’m going to be car-less for a while. Unfortunately there isn’t many Soarer wreakers in the middle of western Australia!


Thanks for any help folks and great site, keep up the good work!
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 03:24 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ryan, it is all screws/bolts, but I found one to be painted/rusted in and was hard to undo. Apart from that, it's just tricky and fiddly as I recall.

As a side note, I used a twistie to loosely tie that bar to the door frame, so if/when the plastic snaps again, the lever won't fall and try to commit suicide under the window.

It earned it's keep a couple of months ago when the plastic did break. Most likely once the bar gets bent, unless you get lucky and can bend it back to exactly the original shape, then I suspect it puts abnormal force on the clip shortening it's life span considerably.
Ben Anderson
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Sunday, August 01, 2010 - 10:17 pm, by:  Ben Anderson (Rodreagos) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this happened to me few months ago and havent got it fixed its a pain in my ass. i kept doing the window down and it kept popping the door open. so i bent the bloody thing out the way so it wouldnt keep doing it. :-( shouldve used my nogn

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