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David Grab
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 01:35 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey all im installing my new gas struts but i cant take off the stupid nut off. Ive used a 12mm spanner, no lucky. Added in the add of a hammer, no deal. Im getting close to stripping the thread and ive put a huge amount of energy into it and it doesnt even move. Ive heard these things are hard to get off but most people have said with a hammer they were able to get it off. Anything else i should try and do? Wanna install them today before it gets dark so any help would be sweet.

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Chris Lock
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 02:34 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Push the clip off the back with a small screwdriver, and unclip it, then pull the front off the ball..
no need to undo any nuts..
David Grab
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 02:57 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah ive already unclipped it to get rid of any tension. Will the ball just come off? I was thinking of doing that but i thought it would snap?
Chris Lock
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 06:48 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There should be little clips on the ball end as well actually.. take them off too, then it should be pretty easy to pop it off...
David Grab
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 07:37 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah no clips just a ball joint and thats it.
Adam Peterson
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 09:58 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David, that nut is a huge PAIN-IN-THE-A$$
I have already stripped 2 from my previous soarers.

Chris, i had to undo the little nuts at the back of the strut where the boot arm connects. Sure you can install the strut without undoing them but i have had experience with the strut coming off each time you go over a large bump.
David Grab
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 10:18 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ill be hitting it with a butane torch hopefully tomorrow. Apparently from the info on clublexus they are done up with locktit and then painted so heating help to loosen it. Adam if i strip it what options do i have then?
Mike Beck
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 11:07 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I attempted this to swap my JZZ31 struts to my UZZ31 but failed.

The nut was just too tight and with every bit of force extra I put on to it, the force started bending the metal work where it was mounted...

I was probably trying to tackle it the wrong way but ehh, its all in the past now that so I just left them as is.
Chris Lock
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 09:01 am, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seriously, i regassed mine and didn't have any trouble.. no nuts!!!
David Grab
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 10:52 am, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didnt you have to take them off to get them regassed? Believe me they are a Mine where still working fine but i had new ones so i wanted to swap them. Either way i need to take that nut off to put the new one or the old one back on. Butane it is.
Mike Triggs
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 11:55 am, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can relate to this one. I put the '97 struts on the '95 when I had them both at same time, and then bought new ones for the '97. The '97 ones came off OK but the '95 was (expletive deleted) not fun. Bent the mounting bracket before I could get the nut off. Can't offer any suggestions aside from those already offered.
Adam Peterson
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 04:49 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Grab wrote on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 10:18 pm:

Adam if i strip it what options do i have then?


If that be the case then you're almost stuck with it. I eventually got one off and operated the boot with one new / one dead strut.

I even took it to a strut specialist and he couldnt remove it with special tool. Thats how tight they are.
David Grab
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 05:35 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah i think im close to stripping one nut already. Problem is that the other end if of so the boot is heavy as hell. Ill get the butane torch and give it a go, if i strip it ill get a hacksaw and hack it off and then drill out the rest. Why did they even bother putting locktite on it?
Adam Peterson
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 06:33 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

make sure you have a packet of panadol ready. Or wear a helmet :-)
Chris Lock
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 07:08 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes i had to take them off to get regassed..
But as i said, it's just 2 clips at the back, and 2 clips at the front...
I'm sure of it....

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Unclip that, then the one at the back as well (different sort) then the strut just pops off the ball...
David Grab
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 08:39 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah its different mate, its just a ball joint and thats it. I wish it were that simple :-(
David Grab
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 08:41 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are exactly the same as this top one in the attached oic

http://i3.ebayimg.com/05/i/08/ae/24/de_1.JPG
Chris Lock
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 09:54 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mmmm... well then, there ya go..
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 10:08 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turning it the right way? :-)

I had both the 91 and the 97 regassed, struts came off pretty easily in both cases.
David Grab
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 11:20 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep turning it the right way. It a bugger of a thing in some Soarers and not in others, luck of the draw i guess.

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