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Ian Johnston
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

Posts: 306
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:06 am, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a BA XR6 Falcon as a company car, and driving to work this morning I realised how similar the dash layout is to my Soarer.
Does this mean the Soarer was ahead of its time?,
or are the late model cars still trying to catch up? ( I prefer to drive my Soarer any day )
Mike Triggs
TryHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:10 am, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How many ways are there to lay out a dash? The other way is to stick everything (well- the speedo:-)) in the middle like Mini- now copied in Echo and X-Trail, or have stuff grouped logically on the driver's side.
Ian Johnston
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:24 am, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understand what you are saying Mike, I was more meaning dash shape, heater control panel position, radio position,cup holder etc. The way the centre section flows down is very similar.
I didnt think it was a dumb statement.
Kip Wightman
Tinkerer
queensland
Vvt-i single turbo

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 04:33 pm, by:  Kip Wightman (Kip96) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Definatley ahead of it's time Ian, not just the dash shape either, the new Ford Territory ads are raving about the "amazing new" reverse cameras, didn't the soarer have those as an option 15 years ago!!? next they'll make a XR8 with electric seats...
Ian Johnston
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 05:15 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both my XR6 and VT Commy have electric control for the seat base tilt. Drivers side only. Very modern!!
Ollie Ernst
TryHard
ACT
Soarer V8 Limited

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 05:38 pm, by:  Ollie Ernst (Oli_g) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see Ford are going to fit some new-fangled camera thingy into the rear of the Territory Ghia to reduce the number of kids the soccer mums run over in their driveways. Shame Toyota couldn't have thought about something so advanced. Oh wait! They did! In 1991!!!!
David Vaughan
DieHard
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 05:58 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Without wishing to appear sympathetic to Ford and their ilk, we should appreciate that they are bringing features formerly found on top-of-the-market luxury and GT cars into mass-market vehicles, just like ABS and (too old for most of you) rear window demisters!

Still, I was as pissed off as anyone else when Holden trumpeted in the early 1990s the availability of an independent rear suspension on the Calais and as an option on certain Quasimodores, representing it as their very own major advance whereas I had been accustomed to it for tens if not hundreds of years on Euro cars. Remember? They even put little "IRS" badges on them
Phil Gibson
TryHard
WA
'94 black/black UZZ31

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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 06:02 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One day Holden may even get rid of pushrods
Lincoln Carter
TryHard
NSW
GT Limited

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Reg: 08-2005

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 09:13 am, by:  Lincoln Carter (Dex) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cant believe they now are or soon the be built by Huyundai ....

If you look at the new Barina and that other stupid one with the 20 bazillion cup holders they look like cheap Huynidais... sad...
Morgan Cross
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 09:47 am, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ian Johnston wrote on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:06 am:

I realised how similar the dash layout is to my Soarer.


Ban plz... Sif compare a Soarer to a crappy BA Ford.



You do have a vague point there, except the Ford dash cluster is TINY small with analogue needles, the audio controls are ABOVE the AC controls, it has two cup holders not one, the arm rest isn't at all comfortable, the gearstick / handbrake look / feel tacky (Who wants momo in their cabin) and the friggen car doesn't come standard with a cigarette lighter, what is this world coming to :-(
Lincoln Carter
TryHard
NSW
GT Limited

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 12:14 pm, by:  Lincoln Carter (Dex) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

luvin the no cigarette lighter! bring on the power outlets!

Smoking kills... so therefore the need for ciggy lighters is being reduced! lol
Katrina Bruns
TryHard
SD
Jeep Cherokee Sport 4.0 In-line 6

Posts: 151
Reg: 08-2005

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 01:12 pm, by:  Katrina Bruns (Katrina) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ANy pictures for those of us (well me anyways) that has not seen the soarer wanna be look-a-like?
Ian Johnston
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

Posts: 313
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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:05 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will see if I can manage a photo tonight.
Morgan, I am not saying it is exactly the same, but in general shape/layout is similar.
Have you driven an XR6? Dont knock it until you try it. Handles and rides very well!!
And I wish my Soarer brakes were as good.
Morgan Cross
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:17 pm, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MY Dad has a BA XR8, It's done 40,000k's and we both agree I've done more k's in it than he has :-) That's why I'm so quick to bag it. Flimsy piece of garbage that it is.

Only good thing about it IS the brakes, although on a 1800kg car, you don't notice them as good as you would on something lighter, heck, that barge makes me Soarer feel like a Pulsar.


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Ian Johnston
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 07:23 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Morgan, dont get me wrong, I am not about to trade my Soarer! The Soarer is still the best car I have ever owned or driven, as an allround package. And I have driven Ferrarris, Jags and Benzes(My boss owns too many cars).
Anyway, will attempt to add some pics here.

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Ray Crawford
Tinkerer
NSW
GT Limited V8 UZZ31

Posts: 54
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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 10:40 pm, by:  Ray Crawford (Ray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lincoln..the new Holden Barina and Viva is made in Korea by Daewoo. They are the Daewoo Kalos and Lacetti. Daewoo in Korea in turn market the Holden Statesman as a Daewoo Statesman.

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Clayton Webb
TryHard
South Australia
'31 V8

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Reg: 09-2005

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Friday, December 09, 2005 - 11:28 pm, by:  Clayton Webb (Clackers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gotta Love Johnny and his free trade!
Morgan Cross
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:16 am, by:  Morgan Cross (Morgan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ian Johnston wrote on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 07:23 pm:

The Soarer is still the best car I have ever owned or driven


hehe, good stuff, I was getting worried for a second there.

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