Monday, October 30, 2006 - 08:33 pm, by: Jared Whiter(Old_greg)
G'day guys i have always loved soarers so i thought it about time to do something about it. the thing is i want a soarer but i cant drive a tt or a v8 model (because im on p's). i heard somewhere they come in a non turbo v6 model but i dont know if this is true. how hard is it to find a soarer that isnt a turbo or v8? any recomendations for a replacement motor that fits in the engine bay? thanks, Jared
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Monday, October 30, 2006 - 08:45 pm, by: Ben Socratous(Socrates)
Mate, if you stick a non-soarer motor in a soarer, you'll be hung, drawn, quatered, burnt at the stake and castrated in the space of about 2 seconds flat!!!
The soarer DID come out in atmo 6 form, in the form of the JZZ31. It ran the 2JZGE, ie the non turbo 3L supra block. These are increadibly hard to find in good nick, so good luck on your hunt. Or you could wait a year and get a turbo As they are all imports either way, insurance will kill you at your age so just be prepared for that!
Welcome to the world of a nice car, albeit one that costs more to run than a high maintenance woman, but a nice car non the less.
Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:19 pm, by: Ben Lipman(Ben12a)
Hey Jared do the engine transplant!
Be different. I'd recommend the holden starfire 4cyl, or the Hyundai Alpha engine. Maybe a ford 250 cross flow. Go the whole hog and toss in some radial tuned suspension and do away with those pesky airbags.
Actually really piss off a purist and fit a Gen 3 V8 or a RB30/RB26DETT hybrid.
I love it!
Oh and a 3 speed trimatic...
By the way
Ben Socratous DieHard SA I am the fibreglass/kevlar/carbonfibre king!
Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:33 pm, by: Mike Bradberry(Halflife)
Firstly, welcome Jared. Should you decide on the 3l straight 6 model, they are generally lower in price for a late model than the TT or V8. There are some good examples out there, so just take your time to find a good one. You could keep looking on this site for one.
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 08:22 am, by: Daniel Clarke(Dieseltrain)
P platers in NSW cant drive Turbocharged engines, V8's of any sort, Supercharged Cars for the whole 3 years on their P-Plates. Looking at your profile your only 18 now, so you still got a couple of years to go.
The 3Litre Non turbo is a great option. After following the Shrekk down at the ACT on the long weekend cruise, Most of us TT guys were rather impressed about how it moved along. Very damn nice! It is no Slug by all means. I think the 2JZGE pumps out around 160kw in standard form? But with all the creature comforts of the Soarer
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 11:19 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Daniel Clarke wrote on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 08:22 am:
The 3Litre Non turbo is a great option. After following the Shrekk down at the ACT on the long weekend cruise, Most of us TT guys were rather impressed about how it moved along. Very damn nice! It is no Slug by all means. I think the 2JZGE pumps out around 160kw in standard form? But with all the creature comforts of the Soarer
170KW or 220BHP for the non VVT (pre '97) version. The VVT has a handfull more KW and a smidge more torque, though I've heard the non VVT actually feels more sporty.
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 12:24 pm, by: Michael Keen(Jzz30man)
Jared, The Soarer does not come in a V6. It does come in a straight 6, 3.0litre 2JZ-GE (non-turbo) engine. Perfect for a P-Plater. Once you have graduated from your P's you can either turbo the engine, or even better, drop in a 2JZ-GTE engine which is a different version of the same engine with twin turbo's. These engines are available from JZA80 Supra's and japanese Aristo's.So once you are off your P's and have more cash, you can install a 2JZ-GTE engine. The 2JZ-GE I think is 180kw at the flywheel.
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 04:20 pm, by: Mike Triggs(Mikeandimah)
According to my figures the 3.0 VVTi has 168kW, the non-VVTi 164kW, depending on how you translate 225 and 220PS into kW. We have one of each and they are both fantastic. The non-VVTi does feel a tad sportier, perhaps because you have to rev it a bit more. The VVTi has 30Nm more torque, at lower revs, and also gets slightly better economy (perhaps vastly better under cruising conditions, which we don't get here).
Either would be a good choice, if it's a Soarer you want. They often don't have the bells and whistles of the TT or V8, although our '97 is a G-Pack which has a suite of nice goodies, the main one for us being cruise which will be useful on our return to the mainland.
Bear in mibd there are slight parts differences on later models, and some of the "fixes" (like cruise delimiting) listed here on ASLC and elsewhere won't work.
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 04:43 pm, by: Aaron Klaver(Nakedterror)
Ben Socratous wrote on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 08:45 pm:
Mate, if you stick a non-soarer motor in a soarer, you'll be hung, drawn, quatered, burnt at the stake and castrated in the space of about 2 seconds flat!!!
what about a 2jzgte from a Soupra? Or a 1GZ from a Century?
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 08:32 pm, by: Ben Lipman(Ben12a)
No takers on the starfire transplant?
What about the Astron from a Sigma. Now there was a performance car.
Seriously, there was an article in HPI on suitable imports for P platers. NA supra and soarer were on the list. The soarer will probably attract less Police attention. We are spoiled for choice these days. When I was on my P's the cool kids were driving geminis, escorts and sigmas. About 150KW between them all up. 160-180 KW was Bathurst winning territory back then!
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 09:15 pm, by: Ray Crawford(Ray)
Here is a good 3.0 liter here: http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?total_rec=1&search_distance=25&vehicle_id=3570493&model_id=140&badge_id= 25055&state_id=2¤t_rec=1&search_type=21&used_rec=0&make_id=8
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 09:49 pm, by: Vinh Bui(Hyudsjk)
There are plenty of 3.0L NA Soarer's around. I came across at LEAST 10 back when I was in the market for one - end of last year. They house the 2JZ-GE which has some balls from my experience in my mate's NA JZA80 Supra. In all honesty, go for it if you really want a Soarer mate.
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 09:59 pm, by: Jared Whiter(Old_greg)
Thanks for all your replys guys. could anyone give me a ball park figure for the straight 6 non turbo? i want to pay a max of about $8000 i think, but i can get panel work done for a Very good price so even something with a bit of panel damage would be ok. thanks, Jared
Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 10:59 pm, by: Daniel Clarke(Dieseltrain)
Non turbos start from 14k and head up in price mate. You might wanna look into the 3L Non Turbo Older style Jz70 supra? They are in your price range and still a nice car to drive.
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 08:13 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Another good thing about the JZZ31 is it has the best factory exhaust note, better than the factory V8 or TT IMO - great with the windows wound down and the sunroof open.
Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 10:58 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Personally I like it, its nice and quiet (I hate loud exhausts), but still has a great tone when you boot it, only reason to change would be for extra power. I'd have to say the UZZ3x standard setup is TOO quiet though.
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As they are all imports either way, insurance will kill you at your age so just be prepared for that! 
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Personally I like it, its nice and quiet (I hate loud exhausts), but still has a great tone when you boot it, only reason to change would be for extra power. I'd have to say the UZZ3x standard setup is TOO quiet though.
