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Shadi Khodr
Tinkerer
vic
v8

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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:50 pm, by:  Shadi Khodr (Mr_sammy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what oil is needed for 1991 v8 soarer
Ben Daniel
Goo Roo
WA
Twin Turbo

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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:52 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear Canola Oil is good.
Michael Howatt
TryHard
Victoria
4.0 GT-L - V8 - UZZ31

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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 11:29 pm, by:  Michael Howatt (Howatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The owner manual refers to the following:
Above -18°C...10W-30
All Temps......5W-30

You may/will read everywhere on this site that most people use Mobil 1. However, before you go down this track, have a look at AMSOIL. You can use Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil. This is far, far better than Mobil 1.
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.

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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 11:44 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been using castrol magnatec with no issues.

As the cars (and engines) are getting older, you can use a bit thicker oil, especially in Australia's warm climates.

For a standard V8, I'd use any good quality 10w-40 or 15w-40 or even 15w-50 should be fine.

For a standard car, that's driven normally, there's no need to go out using super expensive synthetic oils.

Make yourself familiar with the search button at the top of the page and you'll find just about every answer to every question you can think of.
Ben Socratous
Goo Roo
SA
I am the fibreglass/kevlar/carbonfibre king!

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:53 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Daniel wrote on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:52 pm:

I hear Canola Oil is good.


Maybe its my fooly sik inner wog, but I prefer to use olive oil as the colour matched my fluffy dice better
Ben Daniel
Goo Roo
WA
Twin Turbo

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 12:26 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lol Ben, before or after its been run through the engine ? :-)
Gary Nimmo
TryHard
WA
V8 Supercharged & intercooled

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 01:26 pm, by:  Gary Nimmo (Gazzasore) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think if you go to Planetsoarer.com
& search for oils you will find all thie info you need
I think Peter thought Penrite oil was the one for our 1uzfe 's
Blaine Hanson
DieHard
WA
1993 GT, 1997 LTD

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:27 pm, by:  Blaine Hanson (Blaine) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Dan - it all depends on how you treat you engine. Personally I only run Redline Oils, but that's where my engines are quite often, used and abused like all good V8's should be.
Blaine Hanson
DieHard
WA
1993 GT, 1997 LTD

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Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 08:29 pm, by:  Blaine Hanson (Blaine) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

However - spending the dollars for Redline Oils just doesn't make sense for your average daily driver.
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 05:01 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use Castrol Magnatec.............Same as Dan.

Folk's.........It's NOT a Hi-Tech racing donk, it dosen't need the "Latest & Greatest" oils in order to function perfectly!!!

DON'T over think the whole "OIL" thing................you are just wasting your money!

Clayton Webb
TryHard
South Australia
'31 V8

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Reg: 09-2005

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 05:48 pm, by:  Clayton Webb (Clackers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With the Magnatec, how many components in the 1uzfe are able to be magnetized so the oil actually sticks to them?
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 06:02 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that's why they call it magn A t E c, rather than magn E t I c. It's oil. The advertising sounds good. I don't think it's actually magnetic.

Anyway, most of the working component's are ferrous. Crank, Cam's, Oil pump and other gears, Valves, Buckets, Followers, Con rods, etc etc.
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

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Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 06:47 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its more important to change your oil every 5k or less, rather then get too anal about its specs

I use HPR15 semi synthetic
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Reg: 10-2005

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 08:58 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't going to touch this thread but Greg HPR15 is a 15W-60 isn't it?

Given the toyota specs of 5w-30 or 10w-30 don't you think that is too thick.

Yep the engine has aged I don't see a problem with 10w-40 but I certainly wouldn't be going to 15w-60. My thought would be oil galleries and bearing clearances are designed for a specific weight oil. Going outside the range too much the oil flow will become restricted and that is not going to do it any good.

HPR5, 5w-40 sounds like a good choice or Castrol magnatec 10w-40. I used magnatec in my camry motor which I believe had the same specs as the 1UZ and it ran like a dream after 330,xxxkm.

I tried both magnatec and HPR5 in my 1UZ and both did the job. I am now using AMSOIL and I certainly have no complaints about the quality of the product.
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:16 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oooops hpr10 is what I was meant to say
Ben Socratous
Goo Roo
SA
I am the fibreglass/kevlar/carbonfibre king!

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:24 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, Neil has told me on a few occasions to use Penrite HPR30 which is a 20W-60. Maybe the TT is a completely different kettle of fish, or maybe my motor is just crap?!?
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:30 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is an extract from planet soarer

June 2003

by Peter Scott

Air Filter (all Soarers, SC400, SC300): Genuine Toyota (Lexus) part number 17801-46060

V8 Oil filter : Genuine Toyota part number: PN 90915 YZZD4 (previously 90915 YZZB7) (or 90915-20004) (looks like the Supra guys use this Toyota or Lexus V8 Oil filter on their 2JZGTE's - so it just might be ok for the 1JZGTE twin turbo and 2JZ non turbo too - anyone use it successfully on a TT?)

TT Oil Filter : Genuine Toyota part number: 90915-20003 (or 90915-20001)

V8 Oil: good quality semi-synthetic 15W eg Penrite HPR15 15W-60 ($28) or Caltex Havoline Energy or Formula 3

TT Oil: Full synthetic eg Mobil One ($60) or Shell Helix Ultra ($45) etc

Change frequency: 5000 km or 6 months (3000 miles)

NO METAL CONDITIONERS, NO OIL ADDITIVES NEVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER NEVER! NO!

JUST GOOD OIL, GENUINE FILTERS AND REGULAR OIL AND OIL FILTER CHANGES.

Some oils recommend longer drain periods - not for me. The TT (twinturbo) needs regular fresh oil for sure for the bearings. Oil gets dirty and contaminated and filters block up. Oil looks good if you only look at the dipstick. Drain it into a pan after 5000 km and have a look - try to pour it back into the engine! - you won't want too..
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:31 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scotty is quite happy using HPR15 in his V8
http://planetsoarer.com/OilAnalysis/OilAnalysis.htm
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 10:41 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My oil always looks nice and clean when it comes out =3
Michael Howatt
TryHard
Victoria
4.0 GT-L - V8 - UZZ31

Posts: 143
Reg: 12-2005

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Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:28 pm, by:  Michael Howatt (Howatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:30 pm:



Greg, yes these Oil and Oil Filter articles are excellent, no question however, these are now 4 years old and there may have been some improvement in filters and oils since then. You would think?
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:46 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently the oil filters coming in now from Thailand aren't as good as the originals, so that is a backward step.

The tests showed pretty minimal wear with any oil, so even if oils improved a bit, probably wouldn't make much difference
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Monday, April 16, 2007 - 01:08 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greg,

I have read that fantastic write up by Peter as well.

If I remember correctly he also tested HPR5 in there at a later date (cant find it atm) which had the losest wear partical count of all the oils tested. I also think magnatic feared well.

As to the filters does anyone know what the filter properties are. ie microns for the filter sizes.

I think I have read the quality toyota filter is 22 microns.

I have read (cant remember where) that most good quality aftermarket filters such ryco have a 28 micron filter.
Michael Howatt
TryHard
Victoria
4.0 GT-L - V8 - UZZ31

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Monday, April 16, 2007 - 02:26 pm, by:  Michael Howatt (Howatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Amsoil Oil Filters (EaO) provide a filtering efficiency in accordance with industry standard ISO 4548-12 of 98.7 percent at 15 microns. Most other filters contain conventional cellulose medias range from 40 to 80 percent efficiency.

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx

Less Restriction
AMSOIL Ea Oil Filters have significantly lower restriction than conventional cellulose media filters. Their small synthetic nanofibers trap smaller particles and hold more contaminants, resulting in lower restriction. During cold temperature warm-up periods, an EaO lube filter allows the oil to easily flow through the filter compared to a typical cellulose filter. Lower restriction decreases engine wear.

More Capacity
A filter’s capacity refers to the amount of contaminants it can hold and still remain effective. AMSOIL EaO Filters have a far greater capacity than competing filter lines. When used in conjunction with AMSOIL synthetic motor oils in normal service, EaO Filters are guaranteed to remain effective for over 25,000 miles (>40,000 Km) or one year, whichever comes first.
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

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Monday, April 16, 2007 - 08:46 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Howatt wrote on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:28 pm:

Oil and Oil Filter articles are excellent, no question however, these are now 4 years old and there may have been some improvement in filters and oils since then. You would think?




Absolutely agree with you on that one.
Technology is moving forward and today's quality semi synthetic oils are safe to be used for 10000km.
Yet most of us still change it after 5000.

I guess it part habit part piece of mind.
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
I have a Cadillac and a Supercharged Manual V8

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Monday, April 16, 2007 - 08:48 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Socratous wrote on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 09:24 pm:

Hmmm, Neil has told me on a few occasions to use Penrite HPR30




I have NEVER stated to use HPR30 Ben.

Always have stated HPR10....

Use 30w if engine old and smoking..

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