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Ross Spataro
TryHard
victoria
uzz31
Posts: 274
Reg: 09-2005
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all this debating of 'who said what to whom', should, imho, be done away from the public arena...
frankly, i dont see why anyone, other than the people involved, would really give a •••• about who started this, or who said that...
at the end of the day, surely 2 forums are going to be better than 1?...wont each offer their own unique brand of humour, advice, or anything else members are looking for?...
i signed up for the new forum, but nobody will determine how much time i use on each forum, as i couldnt give a rats arse who was the instigators, or the victims, of this split....i guess im trying to say that its each to their own, and i dont believe the underlying reasons for this •••••••••• matters a crap.... |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 7748
Reg: 11-2004
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Damien, you may know less than what you think.
I have talked with Rob via email about deleting 'cars for sale' posts to keep them from other members. He even told me that was why he deleted the first set of pictures of that car.
In retrospect, the Reepa issue is something I could have handled differently. I could have just said "Due to perceived conflict of interest", or I could have mentioned it to him just before I hit the post button instead of 5 seconds after. However, we were online chatting at the time - and for 3 hours after, and the issue of discussing it first was never mentioned.
Perhaps too though, Reepa being a Mod and partial to a friendly chat occasionally, could have mentioned that the new forum was happening instead of letting me find out when someone else posted about it on the forum. Courtesy and decency goes both ways.
In that situation, we would have talked about it and sorted it out between us. |
Ron Bassett
Tinkerer
Victoria
v8 LTD
Posts: 21
Reg: 04-2007
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Isn't it time this stopped. For those that don't want to be here merely go to ALSC or OT(what is OT?)....simple. No need for primary school tirades and accusations. You can go and read FU8K and Cu*T and look at the male genitalia all you like then. As for spelling mistakes as used in argument, please give us a break. Everyone just exercise your democratic choice and grow up. You can also be bi-partison if you desire.....your choice. I'm sure people have better things to do than waste their time on this thread. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais & 1991 JZZ30
Posts: 2656
Reg: 01-2005
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 01:49 pm:Reepa being a Mod and partial to a friendly chat occasionally, could have mentioned that the new forum was happening instead of letting me find out when someone else posted about it on the forum. Courtesy and decency goes both ways.
As I mentioned to you in that discussion, it was not ready to go live and I had planned on doing a launch of it only 2 days after it was slipped. |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 660
Reg: 08-2005
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 01:49 pm:I have talked with Rob via email about deleting 'cars for sale' posts to keep them from other members. He even told me that was why he deleted the first set of pictures of that car.
Is there any further comment on this? This is a fairly serious thing for a moderator to have done. I certainly would be wary of being a part of a forum with a moderator or owner who participates in that kind of behaviour?
I was also under the impression (for the last 5 odd years) that the forum IS the club. As far as I remember, "membership of the club" was a result of joining the forum. "ALSC" is not incorporated, it does not have a committee, a register of members, and is not a member of AOMC. I am a member of other clubs which do have those things. "ALSC" seems to me to just be the forum?? |
Simon Triantafillou
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer Turbo
Posts: 1102
Reg: 07-2005
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It has been repeated on several occasions in this forum that SC is the forum, and ALSC is the club. Can't be 100%, but I think it was mentioned in the club stickers thread a while back when people couldn't decide on what text to use... SC or ALSC. I ended up making both to suit everyone. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais & 1991 JZZ30
Posts: 2657
Reg: 01-2005
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OT... or as it is constantly referred to by Peter as "Old Tossers" is another soarer forum with restricted access. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 7753
Reg: 11-2004
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Am I wrong?  |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 661
Reg: 08-2005
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But Simon.. what is the club apart from the forum? I'm not sure it really matters in the scheme of things said here, but the conversation has sparked my curiosity about if there is a difference??
I would still be interested in hearing an explanation of the unanswered comment regarding this cars for sale deal.. regardless of all this stuff above that doesn't really mean a heckuva lot to me, that does. |
Ron Bassett
Tinkerer
Victoria
v8 LTD
Posts: 22
Reg: 04-2007
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Is Peter's comment a 'slag off'????? I am lost now. The very thing that he accuses Ollie of doing to SC he appears to do to a third forum. I am lost completely. I did not know there was a third forum. Is it from the UK??? |
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.
Posts: 2266
Reg: 07-2005
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It seems to be a matter of personal opinion about your question, Miles. Some are saying one thing, others another.
Someone has a distorted view of the truth on the matter.
Pen says that Rob was removing posts so that he could have unimpeded access to some cars that were posted up by a dealer in Melbourne.
Rob says he removed the posts because the dealer 1)is not a trader here, 2)has contributed nothing to the club or community apart from trying to inflate the price of soarers for his own profit. 3)is a slimy sleazy prick.
After speaking to said dealer, and others who have dealt whit him, I definatly agree with 2 and 3.
And 1 is obvious.
Read through the stuff and make up you're own mind.
Keep in mind that the cars are still for sale with this dealer, Rob obviously doesn't have a lot of interest in them. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais & 1991 JZZ30
Posts: 2658
Reg: 01-2005
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 03:42 pm:Am I wrong?
So I'm an old tosser? |
Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
HKS T3G equipped TT coming soon... 
Posts: 1236
Reg: 07-2005
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Ron Bassett wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 02:44 pm:Isn't it time this stopped. For those that don't want to be here merely go to ALSC or OT(what is OT?)....simple. No need for primary school tirades and accusations. You can go and read FU8K and Cu*T and look at the male genitalia all you like then. As for spelling mistakes as used in argument, please give us a break. Everyone just exercise your democratic choice and grow up. You can also be bi-partison if you desire.....your choice. I'm sure people have better things to do than waste their time on this thread.
Ron Bassett wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 04:07 pm:Is Peter's comment a 'slag off'????? I am lost now. The very thing that he accuses Ollie of doing to SC he appears to do to a third forum. I am lost completely. I did not know there was a third forum. Is it from the UK???
Dude, obviously you got no idea of whats going on, so instead of asking question and getting implicated within the matter and making yourself look silly, just stay out if it mate......
This issue has got nothing to do with you, nor me, let the concerned parties discuss the issue and make your own judgement on things...... |
Ron Bassett
Tinkerer
Victoria
v8 LTD
Posts: 23
Reg: 04-2007
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Dude, and I use the term loosely, I have a very good idea what is transpiring here. As to the third forum they are alluding to, maybe a knowledgable person such as you can tell us. You are correct however in saying the issue has nothing to do with me or you but unfortunately it has become a matter of public record and debate. It would also have been good if those concerned had privately discussed the issue. The fact is they didn't. I have made no judgement implied or other wise on this thread other than to say it is better finished with on this public forum. If you think that makes me look silly , you are entitled to that opinion, as I am to mine. The thing I am uninformed on is OT, which correct me if I am wrong, is a completely separate issue. |
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.
Posts: 2267
Reg: 07-2005
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Yep, Completely separate issue it would seem. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais & 1991 JZZ30
Posts: 2659
Reg: 01-2005
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Dan McColl wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 05:01 pm:The thing I am uninformed on is OT, which correct me if I am wrong, is a completely separate issue.
Yes, completely different... and none of anyone's business except the parties involved.
OT has never been and never will be public, and is not up for discussion.
The only reason it has come to light is because of Peter's "Old Tossers" references... |
Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
HKS T3G equipped TT coming soon...
Posts: 1237
Reg: 07-2005
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Ron Bassett wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 04:57 pm:I have a very good idea what is transpiring here
Do you now?? So since you have been a member for 1 month means you know the whole history of the issue since day 1??? Wow I'm impressed considering you have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Dan McColl wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 05:01 pm:As to the third forum they are alluding to, maybe a knowledgable person such as you can tell us
Why would I have a say in this as I stated in my previous post just incase you forgot in your tender age......
Steven Nanevski wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 04:44 pm:This issue has got nothing to do with you, nor me
Since it has nothing to do with me, nor am I involed why should I make a comment, to further make false accusations and quote somebody who has written in this post. I do not know the whole story, hence I was staying out of it and reading what each party had to say, and I have come to my own personal judgement which I will also quote for you again just incase you forgot
Steven Nanevski wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 04:44 pm:let the concerned parties discuss the issue and make your own judgement on things......
Ron Bassett wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 04:57 pm:You are correct however in saying the issue has nothing to do with me or you but unfortunately it has become a matter of public record and debate
Thank you for agreeing with me on the first part, but I disagree with you on the second part. Yes it is a public forum but why debate on something that I'm sure you have no idea about than reading each parties input on this very page, I guess I can call you Mrs Mangle for getting into everybodys business without entrely knowing the whole situation since day 1....
As for the rest, I agree with you again.....
Moral is Keep out of other peoples business, sure it is on view for everyone to see, but that still doesn't mean you have to get involved, as I said, let them discuss the issue and resolve it on their terms.......... Dude |
Tim Eacott
Goo Roo
ACT/Canberra
JZZ30 Factory Manual Lux Pack
Posts: 3003
Reg: 07-2005
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 03:42 pm:Am I wrong?
Your always wrong...
hahahahahaha
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Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 662
Reg: 08-2005
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Dan,
I did read the posts and the description of the car and the dealer were both favourable by Roger, who was the guy out west who bought the car. Also mentioned was another member here who bought from him and was happy. The pic of the seat also didn't show the alleged bad condition to me ??
I think maybe I'm missing some history though.. what has this Frank fella sold before that was dodgy? If his business IS being misrepresented, that's potentially damaging and libellous? I'm not taking sides here guys, I just found that topic very interesting and I'd like to know the answer one way or the other. I also make my living in a field where professional image is very important so I'd hate to think someone's reputation is being damaged without cause.. (especially if he is unaware to defend himself) |
Ron Bassett
Tinkerer
Victoria
v8 LTD
Posts: 24
Reg: 04-2007
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Steven, I may have been around for a lot longer than you know.....being a member here for a month means nothing in terms of knowledge about issues or longevity in ownership of a Soarer. I am not in the debate, just wanting it to aired elsewhere. I am NOT in other peoples business as I have offered no opinion or bias towards either. You seem to be on a par with me in that neither of us have knowledge of a third OT forum and I am quite happy to keep it that way.Thanks for the tender age reference, but unfortunately I am not of tender age. The term Dude can and has had many meanings from the late 1800's through early western culture (now there's a misnomer)/sodbuster and through the 80's, eg 1979 easy Rider and TNMT in 1982. The 'cool guy' meaning seemed to come from the 80's surf and skater cultures through to the present expressions by younger people. I was merely expressing that loose terminology. Sorry to offend......and we are way off track here.Meanwhile Miles has focussed an interesting point. I think I will just sit this one out. |
Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
HKS T3G equipped TT coming soon...
Posts: 1239
Reg: 07-2005
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I am definately joining you on the sideline (hope that doesn't sound wrong)
I did not take any offense, didn't mean to offend, just trying to prove a point..... |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 663
Reg: 08-2005
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I'm not trying to get involved in the greater issue of whose forum it is, or whose club it is, or who didn't tell everyone else about their new website or whatever...
But as a member of this "club", I am concerned when issues come to light that there could be dishonesty on the part of a "club officer", particularly regarding manipulating the opinions of the members regarding financial transactions. I'd like that explored and explained.
I only use "" in the above paragraph because everything here is informal. In other clubs there are charters, reviews, committees etc regarding all club behaviour. That sort of alleged activity is very tightly policed.
I will read both sides fairly. I have no preference or bias. I don't know anyone here personally. At this stage it does appear to me that Rob's description of the car and dealer don't really line up with the customers' experiences. It has also been alleged that he removed posts about cars for sale, possibly to promote his own. Is this true? I think the membership needs to know.
I have never EVER had a problem with either Rob or Peter. I would like that made clear. While I have had disagreements with other members (and we all know it), Rob and Peter have never been involved. About the total I can remember having discussed with Rob was a recommendation to use 6061 to make his injector parts for his redheads. I would like to see the allegation answered though.
I realise this is not the main point of this thread and I probably will catch a lot of "butt out", but I think it is an important issue that needs to be addressed to the members. |
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T
Posts: 2717
Reg: 07-2005
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Whoa, what's going on here??? Haven't had much time lately to log in and browse SC lately and look what happens 
Miles, you got a very good point mate. Wouldn't mind hearing more about it.
Miles Baker wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 06:03 pm:While I have had disagreements with other members (and we all know it),
Come on, give us a hug!  |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3001
Reg: 09-2005
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Whats with all the sh*t slinging going on?
Cant we all adopt Daniel's philosophy of hugs?
WONT SOMEBODY _PLEASSSEE_ THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! |
Nayr Civoknar
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ30
Posts: 194
Reg: 01-2007
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why are people so unkind?
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Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 664
Reg: 08-2005
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Hey I've never had a problem with a little man hugging. And you're a little man, so we're set. |
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T
Posts: 2719
Reg: 07-2005
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You reckon? All the girls say I'm quite big!  |
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 6142
Reg: 05-2005
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You guys are weirdly entertaining  |
Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
Stock UZZ31 with Lexus Badges 
Posts: 368
Reg: 08-2006
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Talk about change of moods...I swear i was not going to get involved, the last 3 threads made me go from "what the fcuk?" to "ahahahaha that's GOLD!!!"
I just hope that this thing gets sorted out ASAP, and we can all have a group hug in the showers  |
Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
Stock UZZ31 with Lexus Badges
Posts: 369
Reg: 08-2006
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P.S. Would it be possible for some one to post a link to the thread that started the whole thing, i had a good search for it but no good.
This is so exciting, I want to knooooooooooww!!! lol |
Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
HKS T3G equipped TT coming soon...
Posts: 1240
Reg: 07-2005
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Use the search function Ali and you will find......  |
Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
Stock UZZ31 with Lexus Badges
Posts: 371
Reg: 08-2006
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Ali Yazici wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 08:59 pm:i had a good search for it but no good
and then
Steven Nanevski wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 09:55 pm:Use the search function Ali and you will find......
Doh freddy lol...I already tried that, I tried UZZ32, nothing much came up, other than about 3 pages of exterior, interior work and all the other stuff...
I tried "Frank" that sort of gave me a few more results...obviously this guy is more popular with the forum than actual UZZ32's but still nothing really related to this fight...
Very disappointed I must say  |
Vinh Bui
Goo Roo
NSW
94 UZZ31 (V8) / 96 JZZ30 (TT) / 97 JZA80 (TT)
Posts: 1795
Reg: 07-2005
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Miles Baker wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 05:34 pm:Also mentioned was another member here who bought from him and was happy.
That was me. I purchased my black TT from him at the beginning of last year for $17,000 with 67,000KMs on the clock. The KM's appear to be genuine too, from what my mechanic has told me.
He did say that the car has never been in an accident, but I found out otherwise when I had the entire car re-painted. My painter had to dedicate a whole day sanding it down and getting it as close to the original shape as possible.
Apart from that, the only thing that went wrong was the water pump dieing on it's ass. This is apparently normal for a Soarer though, as their water pumps tend to die at around the 80,000KM mark. Mine died at 78,000.
When I think about it, I do think that I got what I paid for at the time. Who knows though, maybe I got lucky. I did see a VERY nice late model V8 black/black there though. Was going for $25,000 at the time. If I had the money, I would have definitely purchased it. |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 665
Reg: 08-2005
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Soooo.. does anyone out there feel like they've been ripped off by this Frank fella, or that he's particularly more dishonest than the average car dealer? |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
Twin Turbo
Posts: 1327
Reg: 06-2006
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Miles Baker wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:48 pm:Soooo.. does anyone out there feel like they've been ripped off by this Frank fella
ME... I wanted to test drive an RZ Supra and he said no as he was too lazy to move out 3 cars to get to it.
I was hurt. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 2610
Reg: 10-2005
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This thread is proof that car dealers are the root of all evil.
We should kill them all now before it's too late. |
Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
Stock UZZ31 with Lexus Badges
Posts: 372
Reg: 08-2006
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So anywhoooo...any news on that thread that started this punch on??? lol |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 666
Reg: 08-2005
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http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/285/155865.html?1178354105 |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 667
Reg: 08-2005
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http://soarercentral.com/cgi-bin/sc-forum/show.cgi?tpc=45853&post=169257#POST169257 |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland
jzs147 92 / 95 jzz31 98' / jzz30 ute92' / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 1963
Reg: 07-2005
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Pete;
Mate this sort of comment just adds fuel to the fire.
****Am I wrong?****
I really don't know why you do it.
and i am not that old NOR a tosser |
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual
Posts: 3308
Reg: 07-2005
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Calm, Lew . Standing about as a disinterested observer, I thought Pete's particular comment (with a huge laughie after it) was a straightforward joke and made only at Rob's expense, as if among friends. Sorry to see the latter part is not working.
It is a pity the OT forum was mentioned at all, it being a private group (and not one of which I am a member despite quite possibly qualifying according to the jocular title  ) |
Ali Yazici
TryHard
Victoria
Stock UZZ31 with Lexus Badges
Posts: 373
Reg: 08-2006
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Funny as this may sound, but honestly speaking, I read through both those threads, yet I couldn't find anything so bad that could result to this other than the folowing
1. RH being stripped off his MOD status
2. The fact that RH hates Frank (along with about another million members here) if you look at other threads...lol
3. Disagreement b/w RH and Pen...quite understandable that is
I mean I know these are big things, but I honestly didn't think it blow this big...
Wow...really took me by surprise.
P.S. I am not here backing up anyone or any side and I would like to stay out of this at all costs...so if my posts have made some people upset, then I don't mean to bark up the wrong tree and am sorry for what I have said. |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3006
Reg: 09-2005
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Who cares. Lets all just bend over together. |
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo
WA
'94 black/black UZZ31
Posts: 1059
Reg: 07-2005
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Whilst we're all having a bitch - I'd be happy to move to an Aus forum with the same amount of information but with more modern forum software, but sadly it seems that doesnt exist.... |
Perry Morgan
Goo Roo
Qld
UZZ32 ( V8 )
Posts: 1621
Reg: 07-2005
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Ron Bassett wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 05:46 pm:Thanks for the tender age reference, but unfortunately I am not of tender age. The term Dude can and has had many meanings from the late 1800's through early western culture (now there's a misnomer)/sodbuster and through the 80's, eg 1979 easy Rider and TNMT in 1982. The 'cool guy' meaning seemed to come from the 80's surf and skater cultures through to the present expressions by younger people. I was merely expressing that loose terminology
David V, is this you in disguise hahaha. |
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 668
Reg: 08-2005
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Ali,
The danger in those threads (to me) is that Frank does not appear to have actually shafted anyone, yet his reputation is being affected by the president of the club. A post about one of his cars for sale was also then removed. We could say that this was honestly in the interests of the club by a well intentioned member.
However, there is a potential conflict of interest. We do know that Rob buys and sells (particularly) active soarers, including to the forum readership, and that he may have been interested in some cars that Frank bought at auction. We then have a report that Rob may have admitted removing the posts about Frank's cars because of his own commercial interests. After that we have two members saying they have bought cars from Frank and one is very very happy with him and the other feels he at least got what he paid for. The condition report from Rob does not appear to have been accurate (if I am reading it right, though my reading skills aren't the best at times) and there are a few ad hominem comments towards Frank in those posts. Noone else has said they were unhappy with any transaction with Frank. Rob has never bought anything from Frank (?), and is now apparently banned from his lot. I find this odd. As you guys might know, I collect old cars. I have looked at and bought a shedload (or 3) of cars from dealers over the last few years. As much as I haggle and fight with them, none have ever banned me from their lots. Some of these guys have been truly dodgy. Does Frank consider Rob "the competition"? Is that colouring Rob's representation of Frank and his cars to the members? That is how it *could* be construed and I would like to see that cleared up.
These are serious issues which may go towards the integrity of the club and the interests of the people running it. Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to start a witch hunt here, and I am NOT on anyone's side. I am a concerned member that has some serious questions for the leadership of the club I am in. In other clubs, this kind of thing has been raised before, and because of their formalised committeed nature, they have been solved in an open mature way. Rob has done a hell of a lot for this club and community, and I would like to be reassured that there is an explanation for all of this. I think the members deserve that. As many of you know I am a forthright sonuvabitch; I do not toe anyone's line. I just speak it how I see it to whomever. I want an open club and an honest club. This means that noone is above being asked to explain an accusation.
I welcome Rob to address these concerns, clear this all up, and we can all move on with greater confidence. Again, I am just a concerned member. I have nothing against Rob AT ALL. Never have had. I just think the accusation does warrant explanation as the circumstances do look a little odd.
Alternatively, he can ignore me, tell me to shut up, butt out etc. I expect I will cop a torrent of abuse from members that support Rob, that think I am against him (not the case). If that is the case, it will make my mind up and I will be glad to hand in my membership (not that there really is one anyway), and avoid the official club forum and events. I feel as members we deserve to have these questions answered. |
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual
Posts: 3311
Reg: 07-2005
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Perry, about a year ago I gave passing thought to an alter ego to use for comments from my dark side. Then I could even have an argument with myself  
No, the mere stripling Ron is another example of the fact that we are all individuals, except for me. Now, if he can say he saw Easy Rider on first release in the theatre, then I might show him some respect...
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Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 7758
Reg: 11-2004
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Perhaps it's time to wind this thread up and move forward
Things have now been simplified and streamlined and hopefully we will all see the benefit of this.
Soarer Central now has two people with the ability to delete or modify posts anywhere on the forum. Don Bagnall and myself.
The traders have the ability to modify or delete posts within their specific Topic area only, so they can eg clean out old product advertisements etc.
Neither Don or I are "players" in the buy/sell market, so there shouldn't be any interference with items posted apart from that they need to meet all the usual criteria as posted in various visible places, eg be your own stuff, have a price, only from established members etc.
Nobody is forced to use Soarer Central, and in fact if you don't feel comfortable here, then please try the other Soarer orientated forums available on the Internet - there are many of them now.
Those that do wish to stay are welcome, and hopefully will feel comfortable here.
If anyone has concerns, or wishes to make further comment on these issues, please address them to me personally. While I am busy, all emails will get a response in a timely manner.
Peter. |
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