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Moses Sawiris
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Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:13 pm, by: Moses Sawiris (No1soarer)

hey guys, iv always wanted a soarer tt, and with there prices im not able 2 have 2 cars. so i was wondering about the costs of havin a soarer limited with all the options, but having a tt in it. possible?, also the costs of running a supercharger to give me 250rwk in a v8. cheers

Luke Nieuwhof
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Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:42 pm, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Moses, you can pick up average condition TTs for $10K. A V8 converted to TT would be huge $$$ compared to that.
I'm not sure I understand the post though. Do you have a V8 Soarer? Or a 300ZX?

Daniel Clarke
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Friday, August 10, 2007 - 05:12 pm, by: Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain)

Supercharged V8 making 250rwkw, Wont get much if any change from about $12-$15k with all the correct ancilleries in place!

Moses Sawiris
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Friday, August 10, 2007 - 08:00 pm, by: Moses Sawiris (No1soarer)

sorry guys, yes i have a 95 aus spec 300zx. i would like to buy a v8 soarer limited but have either a tt engine or the v8 super charged in it. theres much more class about the soarer limited than the zx, and iv always been very passionate about owning one, but got turned off about little things breaking in them such as interior clips ect.

Steven Nanevski
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Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:24 pm, by: Steven Nanevski (Imprestik)

Moses Sawiris wrote on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 08:00 pm:
but got turned off about little things breaking in them such as interior clips ect

Damn dude that should be the least of your problems. Why do you let little things like that worry you about getting a soarer??

I'm sorry but I hate the interior of a 300ZX, such a fat car with so little interior space.....

Shem Nilon
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Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 07:04 pm, by: Shem Nilon (1fromv8town)

Yeah man...put your money on a soarer!!!

Callum Finch
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Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 07:42 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

A Soarer would be cheaper to maintain than a 300zx =P

Alen Sadikovic
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Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 09:40 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

Moses Sawiris wrote on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 08:00 pm:
yes i have a 95 aus spec 300zx

ohhh i always wanted a 300zx, love the looks of them. but too many people put them down and i got too scared of getting one

Greg Nikitiuk
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Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:45 pm, by: Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr)

Alan stick to a Soarer, much better car then Lebanese Ferrari

Moses Sawiris
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Monday, August 13, 2007 - 08:03 am, by: Moses Sawiris (No1soarer)

to be honest, ppl over rate the problems you can have in a zx. i drive mine like its stolen for a year now and no problems. iv driven soarers both tt, auto, manual and auto. there very smooth but the handeling isnt as good and stock vs stock the 300 is quicker. im not bagin soarers i lovem 2 death

Gregg Holden
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Monday, August 13, 2007 - 02:10 pm, by: Gregg Holden (Xzotic)

The 300zx is a big go cart - nothing more...

Styling is getting dated where-as the soarer still holds it's own...

Alen Sadikovic
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Monday, August 13, 2007 - 08:07 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:45 pm:
Lebanese Ferrari

, i like the way you said that.

Ross Pesina
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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 11:11 am, by: Ross Pesina (Ross79)

My mate had a TT auto 300ZX and I had a TT auto Soarer. The zed had a few little mods and my soarer was completely stock. The Soarer handled a LOT better than the zed, got a number of people to drive both cars and everyone agreed the Soarer was better handling car.
Also the Soarer was a little faster. On the gtech the zed got 14.5 while the soarer managed a flat 14.

Callum Finch
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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 08:26 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

Soarer a better handling car?

Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 06:49 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

300ZX's are very heavy - I've only ever driven two, both long wheel base - but neither felt very chuckable compared to a UZZ30, (which itself is not exactly chuckable)

Could be both of them had issues though - after investigating two of them I'd had enough and stayed well clear.

Ross Pesina
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Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 08:43 am, by: Ross Pesina (Ross79)

Even my mate that owned the 300ZX agreed the Soarer handles a lot better than his zed. Both cars had very stiff suspension.
If you check the specs you'll find both cars weight about the same.
I still like the look of the zed but after seeing how tightly everything is packed in there it would take a lot of convincing to get me to buy one. The Soarer's hard enough to work on but compared to the zed looks like it has enough room to squeeze in another engine.

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Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 02:59 pm, by: Aka Abedin (Soarer_91tt)

Ross Pesina wrote on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 11:11 am:
My mate had a TT auto 300ZX and I had a TT auto Soarer. The zed had a few little mods and my soarer was completely stock. The Soarer handled a LOT better than the zed, got a number of people to drive both cars and everyone agreed the Soarer was better handling car.
Also the Soarer was a little faster. On the gtech the zed got 14.5 while the soarer managed a flat 14.

Mate dont mean to be rude but a stock soarer could nevar manage a flat 14sec pass down the quater. Ask Jeff Smith and a few others who took it to the creek. I myself managed best of 14.3 with an exhaust. Ryan has managed 14.006 with safc, and hiflow rear muffler.

As for commenting on Zed from what i have heard they are a bit quicker in stock form but thats just what ive heard.

Moses Sawiris
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Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 07:11 pm, by: Moses Sawiris (No1soarer)

ummm yer sorry i know this is a soarer forum and i have a 300zx(lookin at gettin a soarer soon though), but Ross a stock tt soarer will never get a flat 14 second run and i dont think it will keep up to a stock zx. we have had dyno days with the club and stock tt z gets 170rwk, i might be wrong but i definetly never thought a stock soarer will ever get 170rwk. and as for handeling hmmmm, soarer has longer wheel base and the turning circle isnt near as good. but yer i am lookin at gettin a soarer, so im not here to put u guys down

Callum Finch
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Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 08:15 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

Aka Abedin wrote on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 02:59 pm:
Mate dont mean to be rude but a stock soarer could nevar manage a flat 14sec pass down the quater

Moses Sawiris wrote on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 07:11 pm:
but Ross a stock tt soarer will never get a flat 14 second run

Dont let Luke Hoff see that; he has done a 14-zip down the straight in Kwinana in stock form on street tyres.

John Jantzen
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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 08:36 am, by: John Jantzen (Taslex)

I've been in the same position as you, Moses, I owned a 300zx NA from 2000-2005, then I bought a v8 Soarer - while still owning the 300zx - so I was in the happy situation of being able to compare the 2 cars back to back. Although the 300zx had been a dream car, the Soarer rapidly endeared itself to me - more power, safer handling (not so tail-happy) and so much more interior room (and what an interior!) - even usable back seats!

Like yours, my 300zx was extremely reliable, but the idea of having a cam belt break and ruin the engine (they're interference engines - non VVTI Soarer's aren't) or having some stupid hose hidden behind the engine fail and require the gearbox to be removed was a real turn-off. Also the heater core fails very frequently in 300zx's, and it's a horrendous job to fix - although it's probably little better in a Soarer. After I'd owned the Soarer for a couple of months, someone offered me a good price on my 300zx - and I took it with barely a second thought.

Generally I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the reliability of a Soarer. As another member said, small interior clips failing would be the least of your worries. There is a list somewhere on this site or another Aus Soarer site that details about 30 problems that are commonly found with these cars - most are easy to fix, but some are quite expensive such as the airbag suspension or replacing suspension bushes.
With the Soarer you have a very big base of knowledgeable enthusiasts who know how to fix just about anything or where to get replacement or substitute parts. Owning my UZZ31 has always been a positive experience!

Good luck in getting a good price on your Z32 and buying a nice Soarer - take your time and get a Soarer enthusiast to check it out for you - could save you heaps!

Ross Pesina
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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 09:33 am, by: Ross Pesina (Ross79)

I DID state it was with a G-tech meter! Whether it did or didn't do a 14sec quarter isn't my point, it was just a measure to show that it's faster than a zed. Before the soarer I came close to buying a 300zx but reliability issues turned me off. I think the only reason a lot of people think the 300zx is faster is because a manual version is a lot easier to get than a Soarer with a manual.

Blake Gloyn
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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 10:03 am, by: Blake Gloyn (Blakenz)

stock v stock, mod for mod, the soarer (with auto) is quicker than a 300zx manual or auto. I have a mate with a couple of zeds,and over the years have gone head to head many many times. best example... a long uphill slope(approx 20 degree slope) both cars 15 psi, both cars dynoed on same dyno(240rwkw zed, 200-210 rwkw soarer, zed laden weight approx 1800kg, soarer laden weight 2000kg( fuel, drag racing wheels, tools, jack etc,two guys 90kg and 94 kg) soarer won. 1jzs must have a lot of torque.

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Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 10:50 am, by: Aka Abedin (Soarer_91tt)

Callum Finch wrote on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 08:15 pm:
Dont let Luke Hoff see that; he has done a 14-zip down the straight in Kwinana in stock form on street tyres.

Thanks for the info mate, i wasnt sure if anyone has ever done that. I know by having a catback exhaust and supraside mount and FCD and some new rubbers i got my time down to 13.449 now with 1.95 as my 60 footer.

But going back to the topic in terms of motor and reliabilty you cant beat the 1JZ or 1UZ motor.