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Blake Davies
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lux

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 02:19 pm, by:  Blake Davies (Boss_da_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello

i got a friend with a soarer (a stock 1JZ soarer) and his thinking about putting a 2JZ-GTE in his soarer
we both live in Adelaide (south Australia)

anyways the question is about engineering?
if he replaced his 1JZ and put a 2JZ would he need it to be engineered?

cheers...
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer VVTi

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 02:32 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd say so since it was never a factory fitment.
Michael Keen
TryHard
nsw
soarer tt

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 02:41 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i know in nsw you would have to as you incresing the displacment
Blake Davies
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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 03:05 pm, by:  Blake Davies (Boss_da_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Keen wrote on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 02:41 pm:




ok

but the late models soarer's come with a 2JZ-GE (non-turbo engine!)
Aaron Casey
DieHard
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged :-)

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 03:57 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they say if you go over 20% you need it engineered but a 2j is 20% more capacity over a 1j so maybe you should be able to get it legal by just getting it checked and the papers updated with the new engine number and capacity, and being a twin turbo would have the bigger brakes anyway aswell. im looking into this too as for some reason my car has on its rego papers my 1jz engine number but has stated capacity at 3lt.. so technically they already think its 3lt capacity
Anuradha Vithanage
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NSW
2JZ-GTE

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 06:16 pm, by:  Anuradha Vithanage (Lankanrascal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh im confused on this process as well. I need to get mine engineered as well. From memory my mechanic said you don't need upgrade in brakes as Soarers tend to have decent brakes anyway.(correct me if im wrong). Also when you update the engine number and everything do you need a blue slip as well? Can someone please explain the whole process that is needed to make it legal?
Aaron Casey
DieHard
nsw
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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 09:21 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah in nsw if you change any engine you need to get it blue slipped to change rego details... or a nice big fine will come if they find different numbers. full blue slip station would be better in telling you what you need to engineer aswell. i am not currently blue slip accredited but hopefully will be soon :-) lol the turbo model has alot better brakes than the v8 or non turbo 2j version.. i have driven all and the difference is a fair bit i found. but if you were putting a 2jz in you would upgrade the brakes anyway. even if it was just better pads and slotted rotors.
Anuradha Vithanage
TryHard
NSW
2JZ-GTE

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 09:27 pm, by:  Anuradha Vithanage (Lankanrascal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I better jump to it and get a bloody Blue slip then! But when you get a blue slip, can they enforce like a certain time period in which you have to get the engineering certificate as well?

Because when RTA realises you changed engines, aren't they also going to ask for an engineering certificate or is that just for the cops?
Brian Timms
Goo Roo
New South Wales
TT Soarer Goodness.

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:22 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the Soarer was fitted with a 4 litre as it's largest engine.

Last time I checked, you couldn't go 15% larger in cc than the largest engine fitted to the vehicle from the factory, so going a 2JZ 3 litre would be actually under the size limit allowed, and thus should be fine (this was for NSW).

This was over a year back now, and you should probably contact your local road and traffic or department of transport to confirm this.

Every state has a contact on their website for modification questions, they are friendly, fairly quick in turn around, and their information is acurate and golden, right down to linking to specific local legislation, to links to ADR, to your required route to be completely legal for the mods, even information on who can engineer the job and time-frames you have legally to get this stuff done.

B.
Anuradha Vithanage
TryHard
NSW
2JZ-GTE

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 01:13 pm, by:  Anuradha Vithanage (Lankanrascal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I called up RTA today. The guy informed me you have to initially go get a NSW engineers certificate. Followed by a blue slip. Then you take it to RTA to change all the details. Apparently this is the process. Cheers

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