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Dean Smyth
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nsw
JZZ30 TT

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Friday, April 18, 2008 - 10:25 pm, by:  Dean Smyth (Its10ft) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was ebaying 'soarer' as you do and came across this.
The best Lexus / toyota sc400 soarer in Australia.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/The-best-Lexus-toyota-sc400-soarer-in-australia_W0QQitemZ110243483613QQihZ001 QQcategoryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Is this anyones car from here?
If so, good work on the reply haha.
If you missed what i'm talking about i copied and pasted it below.

Q: Hello, i was wondering who converted this "lexus sc400" to right hand drive? as the lexus SC400 only came out in the usa no where else and thay where all left hand drive cars. and also who put the EMV in this car? as the SC400 doesnt have one from factory only a toyota soarer does. Im i right in saying this is just a TOYOTA SOARER? AND NOT A LEXUS AT ALL ?
16-Apr-08
A: hello my friend, your obviously a very educated man with just bad eye sight if you look at the following advert i have listed it clearly states that is a toyota soarer which is the same body shape as the sc400 Although the limited had more options than than its counter part. The reason i have listed it with lexus sc400 is that some people search for that as alot of the soarers are rebadged to lexus (as they are exactly the same car). LEXUS actually stands for Luxary EXport to the US and is owned by toyota. As im sure you would like to spend my well earned tax dollars sitting on the dole with your penis in your hand writing me stupid messages, im retired and dont give a as i have plenty of time to burn.
Prayag Sharma
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single turbo soarer

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Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:14 pm, by:  Prayag Sharma (Prayag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah i seen that under "cars for sale" section, but its not there now, maybe he was a new member and Peter took it off...

yeah that is a fine reply by the seller...
Jan Christiansson
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Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:59 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He is a dealer.
Charlie Ters
TryHard
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TT gone single :-)

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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 12:30 am, by:  Charlie Ters (Ul05st) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

damn, he gained 15kw from a cold air induction..... ....
Dave Billings
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 12:37 am, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweet car, though!
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 09:31 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not bad condition from the photos.
Graham Dollisson
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 10:04 am, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What an ass hole!!
Bobby Green
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 10:09 am, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To be fair that car is pretty damn clean for a 91.
Scott Gates
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 12:42 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The car does seem to be good condition, but still that response, wow what a fool.
David Vaughan
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 01:41 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you saying the responder is a fool rather than the questioner, Scott, or is that only what you wrote?
Scott Gates
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 01:49 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dean Smyth wrote on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 10:25 pm:

As im sure you would like to spend my well earned tax dollars sitting on the dole with your penis in your hand writing me stupid messages, im retired and dont give a •••• as i have plenty of time to burn.




I am saying the seller is the fool after this comment.
Scott Gates
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 01:51 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Dean was just asking a simple question to get the correct details about the car. And to get that sort of reply, it doesn't say much for the seller does it.
David Vaughan
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 02:36 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you read again you will find it was not Dean who asked the question. He simply posted the question and answer.

I deduce this not least from the fact that Dean explicitly complimented the responder for his answer to the dickhead smartarse question; as would I.

I thought the response could have been better expressed though.
Scott Gates
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 02:47 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree it was a bit of a smartarse question, but if you're selling something with the wrong details, then it doesn't help the buyer when trying to work out what the car is.

As i'm sure you would want to know the correct details on what the car you are buying is.

The average joe would have no idea if it were a Toyota or Lexus.

You have made me think a bit more, not sure which side i am on now. lol
Dean Smyth
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 03:20 pm, by:  Dean Smyth (Its10ft) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Davis was right, I was commenting on how the seller of the car owned the stupid question that other guy posted. The question wasn't posted in interest in buying the car, but to mock the seller (well i thought) and the seller had a kick ass reply haha.
David Vaughan
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 03:25 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The average joe would indeed have no idea if it were a Toyota or a Lexus which is one reason posting it as a Lexus is a fair and reasonable thing to do. That is how it is badged so it would be still more confusing to call it a Toyota, yet he included Toyota in the auction title showing he knew what it was underneath.

I agree a bit that the response was in itself a bit of a wank. It is the seller's option to publish the question and reply, or to keep them private. While sympathising with the response, I would have made it privately.
Dean Smyth
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 03:50 pm, by:  Dean Smyth (Its10ft) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the only reason he put both names in the description is so people could find the car when searching. Ebay's search system sucks.
I don't think the average joe would be searching ebay for a soarer or sc400 without knowing a little about the car first.
Jan Christiansson
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:06 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I asked the question about the rear spoiler.
He answer obviously there is none.
My reply to that was.
So you do a false advertisement then?
His reply: mate your a fxxxxxg cock! If you wish to be a man arrange to meet me....
Adrain Parsons
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:26 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this seller sounds like a wanker to me. and wanting $17000 !! dreaming i say.
Adrain Parsons
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:28 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh and jan go meet him and kick him in the ass and tell him to pull his head in.
Dean Smyth
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:39 pm, by:  Dean Smyth (Its10ft) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone should organize a look and turn up in their soarer and state that its no where near the best soarer in Australia haha
David Vaughan
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 05:02 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting discovery, Jan. So does that mean his options list shows things it might have had, or what it really has? We know one thing in the list that it lacks.
Jan Christiansson
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 05:12 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Adrain Parsons wrote on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 04:28 pm:

oh and jan go meet him and kick him in the ass and tell him to pull his head in



For 30 years ago I wouldn't hesitate 1 sec to do that, but today I'm to old and frail.
Adrain Parsons
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 05:30 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jan just get some young mates to do it, lol
Jan Christiansson
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 05:37 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is his last email to me.
what, your a smart arse who has no interest in a car, i can either meet you or im up in queensland on the weekend, i would love to gut you and your family
Adrain Parsons
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 05:58 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jan thats shocking for him to say that. what a tool this seller is.
Dean Smyth
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 06:15 pm, by:  Dean Smyth (Its10ft) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to port in 4 days. Wouldn't be hard to track down a nice soarer like that ;) haha
Michael Long
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 08:33 pm, by:  Michael Long (Longy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it time for everyone to start asking dumb questions?
Scott Gates
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 08:36 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hah yeah, see how annoyed he can get. lol
Rod Iseppi
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 09:03 pm, by:  Rod Iseppi (Rod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha i reckon, lets see how many people he can threaten.... :-)
Prayag Sharma
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 09:18 pm, by:  Prayag Sharma (Prayag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have started..
Stefan Kjellberg
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 10:28 pm, by:  Stefan Kjellberg (Stefank) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a lot of crap about nothing

When is a Soarer a Lexus and when is a SC400 a Soarer ? It's the same car with different badging.

How many of you have a SC400 badge on the back.

I call my car the 'lexus' at home as it sound better to the wife, soarer mostly elsewhere as most people know what a soarer is, but have no idea what a SC400 is.

That thing with the ricey wheels would not be the best 'whatever' around though, that's for sure
Jan Christiansson
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 11:02 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's not about to call your car a Soarer Or Lexus SC400 it's about the attitude of a seller, which I say is totally wrong, correct me if I'm wrong please.
Jan Christiansson
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 11:06 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is what I reckon the guy have.
http://www.infotek3000.com/port-macquarie/motor-scene/index.htm
Dave Billings
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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 11:44 pm, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IMO the first guy asked a question he obviously knew the answer, trying to flex his muscles of knowledge, lol, with no intentions of buying at all, trying to own the seller. The seller wasn't going to be owned by anyone, lol. From Jan's answers from his questions it clearly states that the seller is a dickhead.
James Harris
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 12:28 am, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

M'eh... you guys are such a tough crowd.

Just let the guy sell one of his bloody cars.

His other V8 looks nice too:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LEXUS-TOYOTA-SOARER-LIMITED-V8_W0QQitemZ110242893016QQihZ001QQcategoryZ35227Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

AND for anyone chasing a cheap Open Wheeler V8 diff, gearbox or steering column in BRISSY !
Check link below

http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQsassZmylexusis
Adam Peterson
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 12:35 am, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

clearly too many people have a lot of time on their hands. I cant see why everyone is getting so worked up ?
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 07:35 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well researched Jan. The mobile number of the seller matches Daniel Hounslow, the MD.

We did not start off being hard on him James. His only subsequent mistake has been to list a rear spoiler when it does not have one, and to keep being rude after the circumstances for it had gone. I personally hold no animus toward his sale.

His car has all of the other options listed. I asked him and got a polite reply.
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:06 am, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 07:35 am:

Well researched Jan. The mobile number of the seller matches Daniel Hounslow, the MD.





The wonders of the Internet.
Patrick Robinson
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 12:05 pm, by:  Patrick Robinson (Islandsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As we say here in the Bahamas......COOOOOOLLLLLLDDD!!!
Miles Baker
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 12:47 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You could also report him to the police as making threats to kill.
Jan Christiansson
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Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 01:12 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Miles, but I don't think much will happen after that, I have reported him to eBay for foul language and threats to hurt me, hopefully that will affect him more.
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Monday, April 21, 2008 - 01:59 am, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Internet Nazi's





Like he said...he's retired and has NOTHING better to do with his free time, alot I'm sure. Anybody can be SOOOOOOO big and brave hiding behind a computer screen, but he probably is some old fraile bloke that has to be reminded to change his Depends diapers. hehe
Rod Iseppi
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8 limited x2, 86 chev silverado

Posts: 476
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Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 06:41 pm, by:  Rod Iseppi (Rod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey i questiond him about the air suspension... im sure they both wernt considerd active, this was his answer....:

its a uz31 with active suspension, same as the toyota supra, the air bag and hydrolic where both considered active, thanks for you opinion.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Reg: 09-2005

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Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 09:27 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Direct him to the wikipedia article on active suspension; common opinion says otherwise ;)
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Reg: 11-2004

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Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 02:34 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could qualify as "active" in that it reacts to different loads, eg adjusting when heavy people get into the car.
Dave Billings
Goo Roo
Louisiana
SC 300, 2JZE, 5 Speed

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Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 02:48 pm, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How heavy is "heavy"?
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 04:27 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When the car sighs with relief when they get out.

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