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Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

Posts: 324
Reg: 12-2007

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 03:26 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I removed the rear mufflers from my Soarer today, since I was bored, wanted to know what it sounds like, and can't afford the full system I want for a good while. Anyway, it sounds crazy good considering how much it cost... but here's my question:

Can anyone provide a ball-park figure on how much it would cost to get a couple of pipes cut to size, bent and attached to the mid-muffs? There's bugger all involved... probably take my local exhaust joint 15 minutes from start to finish.

I'll whack the OEM tips back on for aesthetic purposes (plain pipes would look sh!t house).

I'll put a vid up when this computer stops being a prick!
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer JZZ31 I6

Posts: 1997
Reg: 11-2005

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 03:48 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did this on my celsior, Didnt sound that good. Very hollow and tiny, would have been better to have straight pipe from the Y pipe back and no four rear mufflers.

I did however do this on my JZZ31 2JZ soarer, replaced the rear mufflers with 2.00" Straight pipe and had the stock tips put back on. Cost me $70 I recall

Heres my video, I love the sound but with a full system Ill do one day It will be MUCH better.

Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

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Reg: 12-2007

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 04:01 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SE-oUz5feI
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

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Reg: 12-2007

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 04:04 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, dunno how to do that embed thingy.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 04:05 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glen, just have mild steel pipes made from the cats to the rear muffs, remove the middle muffs and centre resonator. Cost is a couple of metres of pipe and some labour, but sound would be excellent.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer JZZ31 I6

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 04:08 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would agree with Peter there, easily a cost effective and simple exhaust.

I was going to do that on the Celsior but the new Soarer took over my interests before that could happen!
Brian Timms
Goo Roo
New South Wales
TT Soarer Goodness.

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 04:11 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went up to BAthurst last year with a bloke that removed everything from after the Cat converters to the mufflers, and ran straight pipe, sounded awesome, was quiet and clean, but nicely throttled.

B.
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:13 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweet - I'll go to the exhaust joint later today and get a quote. While the rears are off I might stick them on the buff and clean the buggers up a bit... the tips are all scratched up (stuffed if I know how that happened).
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

Posts: 332
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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:10 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went to the exhaust shop, and the bloke had a dekko under the car. He reckons the absolute worst case scenario would be $200 for a couple of press-bent bits of mild steel pipe, and a few welds here and there.

I think that's ok, since the last time I went there I needed a fair amount of repair work done on my last car and it cost $150 or $180, I can't remember.

I fired up the car for him to listen to, and he thinks that if I get the mid-mufflers removed and put the rears back on, it will sound better. He said there will be more room for the sound to reverberate in the exhaust, and that the mids are more restrictive than the rears so it will have a more throaty roar and better pulse definition. Bring it on... I think it already sounds pretty cool without the rears, so I'll get this done in the next week or so.
Michael Butas
Tinkerer
NSW
'96 GT Limited V8

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Reg: 10-2007

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 01:56 pm, by:  Michael Butas (Mb07) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Glen I'm sort of in the same boat as you regarding the money factor so it will be good to hear how it turns out for you and maybe I might do the same thing.

Just a question for everyone, when doing something like this to the stock exhaust, what happens to the sensors are they just not used anymore and will this cause warning lights to come on the dash?
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

Posts: 334
Reg: 12-2007

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:39 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sensors?
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:31 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Only one I can think of is the cat converter one which generally doesn't present any problems when it's removed :-)
Ben Kelly
TryHard
Lidcombe
v8

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:11 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I posted something similar in a different section. Following peters advice I recently removed centre cat and mid mufflers. No straight pipes as such, just pipes dropped in where the components were removed. The sound is much better and its fairly quiet when cruising. Was nothing like the aftermarket exhaust setup I had on a previous soarer though. There was a big improvement in power.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

Posts: 9218
Reg: 11-2004

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:21 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Later model V8's also have another pair of (Oxygen?) sensors just before the centre resonator.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:25 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Upload

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Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

Posts: 336
Reg: 12-2007

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Friday, May 02, 2008 - 12:38 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, I see. Haven't seen those on my 92... and the exhaust guy isn't going to remove anything from before that point anyway.

And I agree with Maurice - the only one I knew about was the cat converter. If all you guys with hi flow cats haven't yet posted something about warning lights, it mustn't be an issue.

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