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Tom Nicol
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:09 pm, by:  Tom Nicol (Goosemonger) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't quite sure where to post this, anyway.

I recently bought myself an iPhone. It's pretty damn awesome, mainly cause you can download applications that do anything you can think of.
I just found one called Dynolicious. Apparently it uses the phone's accelerometer (the bit that knows when you turn the phone on it's side) to measure your car's 0-100 acceleration, quarter mile time, even the Gs it pulls.

Just wondering if anyone has heard of or used this program. It costs $16US so I don't wanna go buying it willy nilly especially if it turns out to be horribly inaccurate.

That is, ofcourse if anyone on here owns an iPhone.
Or has anyone used a different kind of accelerometer based car measuring device mechanism thingy?
Scott Casey
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 05:00 pm, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

have a look at this site

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/6236/third-party-app-turns-iphone-into-idatalogger/
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 06:38 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look also at G-Force, G-FORCE, gMeter and others. The iPhone contains an accelerometer which is used for these things along with its inbuilt GPS.
Steven Roduner
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:43 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have bought the program for my iPhone, works pretty well. Still not sure if it’s worth the money but is very interesting none the less. I have set it up to what I think is right (for now) and did a trial run. Tells me I have about 140rwkw ( I set transmission loss at 22%)... However this was only a trial, as there is a lack of flat straight roads in Rockhampton I am still searching for a strip to use... Will post up again once I have a better go with the program.

Also the program only uses the accelerometer that is built into the phone, no GPS is used. So there is no need to be worried about data usage.
Callum Finch
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:25 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tom Nicol wrote on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:09 pm:

It's pretty damn awesome, mainly cause you can download applications that do anything you can think of.



Can it make me coffee? Find my porn automatically? Rub my tummy?
No?
Its not that great then.
Brian Kelly
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:57 pm, by:  Brian Kelly (Whereswaldo583) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have it too. Its good for getting an idea, but it can be fidgety sometimes.
Jeff Bedsor
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 03:05 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steven Roduner wrote on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:43 pm:

However this was only a trial, as there is a lack of flat straight roads in Rockhampton I am still searching for a strip to use...




Come down to Benaraby, next Test and Tune is 10th of October at 6pm, would be great to see another Soarer.
http://www.benarabyraceway.com/
Steven Roduner
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 04:28 pm, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very tempting mate, however it falls right in the middle of exams for uni... Will have to come down one time but.
Jeff Smith
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 07:09 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got it too.... Car is getting a sex change so I havn't been able to test it out... hahahaha
Mark Ribbans
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Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 02:37 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is also a similar version of this application that works on Symbian v60 phones (like new Nokia's such as the N95 and a couple of others) which have an inbuilt accelerometer.

http://www.tempes.com/download.html

Apparently it's pretty accurate. Does 1/4 mile, 0-100 and peak speed etc.. It also connects to the CPS network too using an internal (or external GPS).

There is a free trial version (with limited functionality) and it's also a signed application so there are no issues with installing on your phone.
Glen Muller
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Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 03:17 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd be scared that the GPS would work in with it then alert someone out there in cyberspace (ie technocop) that there's someone out hooning on a public road. But then again, I'm paranoid...

But then again - I live in Victoria.
Simon Martin
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Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:57 am, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweet
i'll have a chop on my 95 and see what it says =]
Callum Finch
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Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 12:50 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Glen Muller wrote on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 03:17 pm:


It wont do that if you dont let it use your GPRS/3g! ;)

I cant speak for the iPhone GPS, however the n95 gps isnt very accurate so take it's results with a grain of salt hey.
Simon Martin
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Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 08:48 am, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it kinda worked last night. But every time it said inaccurate. Probably cause of the weather. Or I was just going too fast for it to keep up :-)

so i'll have a fiddle another time
Steven Roduner
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Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 10:30 am, by:  Steven Roduner (Steve89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Callum Finch wrote on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 12:50 am:

I cant speak for the iPhone GPS, however the n95 gps isnt very accurate so take it's results with a grain of salt hey.




The iPhone doesn't use GPS for dynolicious, It relies solely on the accelerometers. This App can also be put onto the iPod Touch for those of you who don't have an iPhone.
Jason Munro
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Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 01:38 pm, by:  Jason Munro (Jason_munro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

we should also clarify, that the dyno program is only for 3G iphones. i have a jailbroken 2g and have not been able to find it anywhere.

Jason.
Rob Rojo
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Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 08:34 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have Dynolicious installed and tried it in sync with my run at WSID, It registered around 22 seconds where as my real time was 12.8 seconds. I The sensitivity was too high so it started timing before I had even got to the start line. It seems to be a great application, I just need to sort the calibration a bit further.
Luke Nieuwhof
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Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:41 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a play on Friday night.
This run was a 13.45/170.99 according to the time card.
Dynocious showed it as a 13.95/170.4, so there must be an issue to work out with rollout perhaps, even though I tried changing the rollout with not much effect. 60 foot was 2.29 on the track, 2.68 according to phone. .67g was the maximum. 5.8 0-100 according to the phone, which would seem a little slow perhaps.

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Rob Rojo
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Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:49 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still,
That's pretty good for a phone, I have not tried mine since, will try it again this week.
Callum Finch
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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 12:58 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually Rob, being out by half a second on a 1/4mile is a big thing.
Rob Rojo
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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 02:57 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am aware of that Callum, but when you consider the settings of the phone would not be exact unless the car and driver have been weighed and the phone was calibrated perfectly. I think its a pretty good result from a phone and would become more accurate when configured and calibrated perfectly.
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 02:46 pm, by:  Ash Martin (Awam) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Rob Rojo wrote on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 08:34 pm:

The sensitivity was too high so it started timing before I had even got to the start line




You can change the sensitivity of the trigger in setup
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 06:41 am, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm watching this thread as I'm wondering if anyone has come close to the right setup...
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 05:46 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just go to a Drag strip... You shouldnt be doin 100+mph on the roads anyways :-)
Luke Nieuwhof
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Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:28 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll have a bit more of a play on Sunday and see if I can get more accurate figures.
Luke Nieuwhof
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Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:43 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still struggling to get accurate figures....it seems to be about half a second out most times no matter what I do.
I did get one run that was pretty close...I've lost the bloody timecard that went with it (a 12.99) but I'll use a 12.98 as a comparison.

First figure is time card, second figure is phone

60ft
1.96 vs 1.96

330
5.46 vs 5.40

660
8.34/136kph vs 8.26/138

1000
10.85 vs 10.75

1/4
12.98/171 vs 12.84/175

The horsepower and max g figures are thrown off by the shift kit which produces a big spike.

0-100 on that time is 4.62 seconds which was interesting if you are into comparing to factory cars.
Jeff Smith
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Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 06:46 am, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's close enough I recon! What is the settings for your setup?
Luke Nieuwhof
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Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 01:19 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that was with both roll outs at something like 20 inches...
I think that was the only one I recorded where it was quicker than the actual time on my time card.
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Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 04:30 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IN a sport which is measured in hundreds, even thousands of a second.... close enough is never good enough,lol...
Luke Nieuwhof
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Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 06:17 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It'll never be a replacement for an actual time at a track...but interesting none the less especially if you can compare the two.
I'm most interested in the 0-100 figures and so on.
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Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 10:09 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 06:17 pm:

I'm most interested in the 0-100 figures and so on.




Yeah thats pretty cool.. Sub 5 seconds to 100 is damn impressive.
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Friday, February 13, 2009 - 02:26 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just installed the app.

See how it goes soon
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Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:24 pm, by:  Paul Ince (Incey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow I'm a bit behind the times here but I d/l the app today on the son's touch and had a blast trying it out

the best of about 10 runs resulted in 6.01s 0-100. I was able to see differences between times on 16psi and 18psi.
It was definitely worth the money. Next up is trying different tunes on the emb and see what happens.
Here's a graph from today




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Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 08:18 pm, by:  Nathan Hlad (Jackpot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thats actually pretty sick
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i remember readings AGES ago that people where actually somehow using the nintendo Wii's controller to do the same thing.
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Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:10 pm, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thing is the iPhone needs to be set up correctly calibrated regulary etc.... I won't get into details, but I have used this app on the actual 1/4 mile and it has proven to be very accurate as I set it up accordingly and used it correctly.... Any road with even an undulating surface will give an incorrect result as will vibration from wheelspin movement from the device and more


Anyway it was o.o1 off the et and 3km/h off the trap speed, better than the newer model gtech pro that I have, the old black box model tech is garbage and should be tossed in the bin
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Friday, June 25, 2010 - 06:14 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My iPhone died on Tuesday while trying to install OS4. I miss it :-( God knows how long it will be before I get it back.
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Friday, June 25, 2010 - 08:43 am, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you try a hard reset?
Hold the power and home button for 10 seconds and the connect it back up to iTunes.
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Friday, June 25, 2010 - 07:34 pm, by:  Aiden Cheese (Chillpen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steven Roduner wrote on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:43 pm:

no GPS is used. So there is no need to be worried about data usage.


GPS doesn't use data.

FYI.

Hence gps's in australia for all kinds of devices aren't coming with data plans.

edit: lol at me replying to 2 year old comments.
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Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 08:05 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Rob Rojo wrote on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 08:43 am:

Friday, June 25, 2010 - 08:43 am, by: Rob Rojo (Rob_tt)


Did you try a hard reset?
Hold the power and home button for 10 seconds and the connect it back up to iTunes.




Yup, tried the firmware update mode - tried everything! Different computers, different cables, even tried going back to OS3 - always comes back with error code 9

The iPod guru's at work (I work for an Apple distributor/service centre), but we don't distribute or repair iPhones unfortunately due to the Telco tie ins) tested it and recon its a power short in the connector thats causing it. They wouldn't open it up though even though its basically the same as the touch, so it had to go away for repair.

Never mind, maybe it'll be kaput and they will get me an iPhone 4 instead.

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