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Gary Poloskei
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Soarer TT

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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:04 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey chaps

Got a puzzle that id like clarified.
(JZZ30 GT-TL)

scenario.

I open the drives door with my key which opens the passenger door aswell.
I get in and so does the passenger. within 1 minute of driving the car locks both doors.
We stop and try to get out.

the drivers door unlocks when I pull the open door latch and the door opens. but the passenger door does not do the same. they have to manually lift the lock mechanism then pull the latch to open the door.

is this normal?
Prayag Sharma
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vic
T 70

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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:09 am, by:  Prayag Sharma (Prayag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes, that's normal Gary.
Gary Poloskei
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 11:47 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can i change it?
Peter Nitschke
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UZZ30 UZZ31

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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 12:50 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am going to be investigating options for this shortly, I will post up what I find out.
Gary Poloskei
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 01:30 pm, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter to the rescue
David Ormsby
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 03:59 pm, by:  David Ormsby (Phoenix) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've wondered about this too, there must be something in the handle which picks up the lock section?

Easy solution would be the handle setup from LHD SC?
Don Bagnall
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 04:11 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Ormsby wrote on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 03:59 pm:

Easy solution would be the handle setup from LHD SC?



Correct!
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31

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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 06:18 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm completely normal, you will find they lock at about 25km/h as a fantastic little safety feature.

It's annoying re the passenger side however, especially when people start ripping at the door handle to open it unless I unlock it before hand.

Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 06:57 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Ormsby wrote on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 03:59 pm:

Easy solution would be the handle setup from LHD SC?


Nope, already been there, it's not the handle, so has to be the mechanism, which isn't fun to get at.
Brian Timms
Goo Roo
New South Wales
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Monday, September 22, 2008 - 10:04 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Peter has mentioned, it's not the handle that locks/unlocks, it's an electronic controlled locking switch controlled by the door control ECU.

Reason it's not a mechanically unlock feature is because it would be too easy to then use a wire and hook through a bent window/window frame to latch and pull the handle on the otherside door and mechanically unlock the door from the inside handle.

Issue is the door control ECU needs to control the doors individually, I tried rigging my passenger door to unlock first mechanically, then got pointed to the security flaw, so went for the electronic approach.

My plan: To get the entire door control system from a left hand drive, which had all the solenoids, controllers, sensors, etc already in it. Set up a timer relay that would allow the door system to have a timed 30 seconds of power once everything was turned off (same as the door ECU does), and have an electronic sensor in the handle, so as the handle moves back, it activates the signal to electronically unlock the door.

Unfortunately, I never got a chance to investigate this work, as my car gave up and is now sold and gone.

What I did in the meantime was get a sticker made up "WARNING, DOOR AUTO-LOCKS, PLEASE UNLOCK BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO OPEN" and once this was put on, people actually stopped before pulling on the door like donkeys.

B.
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 12:40 am, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My regular passengers know the drill (And the consequences for forgetting :-)) but when I've got someone new in the car, it's not hard to just tap the unlock button on the drivers door. :-)
Ryan Rankovic
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Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:44 am, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mike Beck wrote on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 06:18 pm:

It's annoying re the passenger side however, especially when people start ripping at the door handle to open it unless I unlock it before hand.




god that me

sometimes i forget to quickly unlock the door, and some passengers have tried so hard pulling the handle that the door wont unlock from the inside at all. the little flip lock thing will get stuck in the locked position, and i will have to get out of the car and unlock the door with the god damn key!

mother !
Gary Poloskei
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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 08:15 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

im glad im not the only one feeling stupid about this problem. ill look into it some more.
As the electronics are already in place to rig something up. im sure it can be done.
Brenton Trafford
DieHard
SA
V8 Limited - UZZ31

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 08:58 am, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My car alarm solves this problem. Once the engine is running, I hit the alarm button. It doesn't arm it but just locks the doors. When I open my drivers door, the passenger side unlocks as well.
Chris Lock
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sa
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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 09:09 am, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The alarm in my GT4 used to lock the doors when i started the car, and unlock it when i turned the car off.. awesome..
Why toyota couldn't do that is beyond me!!
Maurice Diggler
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Victoria
TR44i

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 01:48 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That doesn't help 1/2 the Soarer population with turbos who have to wait a few moments for their temps to drop. :-(

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