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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8

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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 11:05 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay, just to clear it first, this is not a JDM Soarer with Lexus badges discussion and the confusion surrounding that. (I just had to say it in case anyone jumped to conclusions)

Anyway......... I'm wanting to confirm the key major option/model differences on the JDM RHD Soarer compared to an American marketed SC400 that is obviously LHD. Useful input here would be excellent.

These are the key differences Ive found through searching around myself.

Ive made a little table up here

(Too much spare time!)

JDM (Limited type options)USDM (SC400)
Exterior
Wheels15” x 6.5” ‘Wire’ alloys16” x 7” 10 Spoke alloys
Body accessoriesWindow antennaExternal mechanical antenna
Interior
Drive positionRight hand driveLeft Hand Drive
DashDigitalAnalogue
SeatsElectric with memoryElectric with memory
Heated seats (Door buttons)Heated seats (buttons on console)
Steering ColumnElectric AdjustableMechanical adjustable
Door MirrorsUltra sonic cleaner/demister (vibration)Demister only? (no vibration?)
Rear view mirrorLCD dimmer LCD or normal mechanical dim?
Stereo~ 170W System – Pioneer with Stacker280w Nakamichi system with Stacker
Dash Scroll functionOn dash display readout? unsure
Engine/Performance
TRC Option ‘TRC’Option ‘TRAC’
Emission controlNoneEGR Vacuum system (purpose?)
CoolingHydraulic FanMechanical Fan?
SuspensionCoil & shocks or Air SuspensionCoil & shock suspension
DifferentialOpen wheel / LSD optionOpen wheel / LSD ???
Exhaust 4 mufflers, 1 Resonators, 2 cats2 Mufflers, Resonator, 2 cats?


I think I've got most of the key things...

Couple things I'm not sure on but please add your info to this if you so desire.

Features I'm not sure are:

Steering column
Rear vision mirror dimming option
Side mirror demister option
Dash Scroll

Dave Rose
DieHard
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uzz31 v8

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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 11:45 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well done Mike...lots of stuff missing for US .
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 12:58 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The major options which they never had was air suspension and obviously active suspension systems, as well as the EMV as far as I know...

I guess they are effectively a well optioned UZZ30 simply put.
Gregg Holden
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WA
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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 02:39 pm, by:  Gregg Holden (Xzotic) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sc400 - gated shifter
Scott Ferguson
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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 02:57 pm, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A quick correction and an addition

No rear wiper on a USDM

JDM do have Mechanical Fans at least on the JZZ30's

I've got more but i'm too tired to recall more at the moment
Mike Beck
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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 06:11 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Gregg Holden wrote on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 02:39 pm:

sc400 - gated shifter




Wasn't that on the 1997-2000 V8 models that got the 5 Speed Auto and VVTi engine?
Rob Rojo
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Friday, October 31, 2008 - 09:36 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think the SC400 has the EMV/GPS option either.
The top of the range Soarer is a much higher spec vehicle by far,why does everyone continue to downgrade there cars by putting Lexus badges on them. I think one of the only things better in the SC400 is the ECU, as it has no speed limiter.
Matthew Sharpe
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 06:57 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its label bashing Rob, same reason people wear sweatshirts with "DKNY" etc plastered all over them. I don't get the psychology behind either, but apparently it makes people feel better to have other people think they paid a lot of money for something, or that in some way its better than what everyone else has because it has a fancy label.
David Vaughan
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ACT
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 08:30 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mike Beck wrote on Friday, 31 October, when he started this thread:

Okay, just to clear it first, this is not a JDM Soarer with Lexus badges discussion and the confusion surrounding that. (I just had to say it in case anyone jumped to conclusions)


Why does everyone continue to downgrade their brains by putting "I can't read" badges on them?

It's label bashing, the same reason people would rather drive a Holden Monaro than a Pontiac GTO. I don't get the psychology behind it either, but apparently it makes people feel more worthwhile to attack people who want something different from them, or that in some way you are superior if you abjure fancy labels.

Guys, use Search to remind yourselves that this subject has already been flogged long after it was dead. There is no need for you to dig up the remains because some of us get no great thrill from watching necrophilia.
Adam Peterson
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 08:41 am, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You forgot the JDM Flare :-)
Rob Rojo
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 09:00 am, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was not trying to bring up the topic as I am aware its been raised many times before, I was just emphasising the "downgrading" to a Lexus part.
David Vaughan
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 10:42 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fair enough, Rob. You will understand my exasperation at where I thought we were going though.

cheers
Rob Rojo
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 11:42 am, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 08:30 am:

It's label bashing, the same reason people would rather drive a Holden Monaro than a Pontiac GTO. I don't get the psychology behind it either, but apparently it makes people feel more worthwhile to attack people who want something different from them, or that in some way you are superior if you abjure fancy labels.




I have no problems with fancy labels, I just would not buy a Kmart T shirt and put a Target label on it.
Mike Bradberry
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 05:19 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toyota Loarer?
Dave Rose
DieHard
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 09:59 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toyota sexus.....
Adam Peterson
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Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 10:55 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

[SEXUS] = best plate ever :-)
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, November 03, 2008 - 06:17 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Rob Rojo wrote on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 11:42 am:

I have no problems with fancy labels, I just would not buy a Kmart T shirt and put a Target label on it.




Mike Beck
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Monday, November 03, 2008 - 10:51 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmmmmmmm this has gone off topic!

Mike Bradberry
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Monday, November 03, 2008 - 12:29 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Mike, I take full responsibility.
Mike Beck
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Monday, November 03, 2008 - 02:38 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha. I kinda expected it too anyway.

"Very complicated issue this!"

:-)
Brian Kelly
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Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 12:17 pm, by:  Brian Kelly (Whereswaldo583) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The USDM SC's had the LCD dimmer on the rear view mirror just to clarify, and there were no options on the side mirrors ie. pwr folding, heated, etc. Also, there was no LSD offered here in the states.
Piers McDonald
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Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 02:20 pm, by:  Piers McDonald (Drp) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The EGR system (exhaust gas re-circulation)
Is just an extra pipe with a valve that runs between the exhaust and the air intake. It opens up on rapid deceleration to send un-burnt gases back into the intake.

It is part of the anti-pollution requirements in California.

Doesn't do anything for performance, if anything, they're regarded as a bad idea.
Mike Beck
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Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 07:29 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought it was something like that. Seems quite illogical on a performance perspective!

I think I remember seeing some JDM stock headers with that extra pipe outlet on the header being blocked off. Guess they make them all like that for easy conversion when some became a Lexus model.

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