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John Beaton
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 04:31 pm, by:  John Beaton (Jbeaton) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Arrgh... i've just been done for 135 km/H on Eastlink. I recall overtaking somebody and then seeing the bridge, thinking 'oh and braking. Only i don't recall getting up to 135 ... not anywhere close.

Problem is, Its not outside of the realm of possibility. It was in the first two weeks of owning the car, and the car is quite quick. I suppose if it was 135kmh i deserve to lose my license. Still ... i'm not sure if it was me or not.

On this site a few people have been complaining about the same camera ...

http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/speed_camera_locations_victoria.htm

Now I don't know what to do. Anyone want to buy a silver soarer?
Sean Routledge
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Victoria
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 07:35 pm, by:  Sean Routledge (Stircrazy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard of a lot of people having there Eastlink fines revoked due to faulty cameras.

Might be worth a shot.

When I got done doing between 30-35kms over it was only a one month suspension.....and four points....and a $380 fine(or there abouts)
John Beaton
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:21 pm, by:  John Beaton (Jbeaton) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mmm. The alleged speed is "135" ... spewing. 1km/h less and it would be 1 month.
Vinny Ozorio
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 10:49 am, by:  Vinny Ozorio (Fruitloop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was it a single camera for "more" then 2 lanes ??If so find a good solicitor....You will be surprised !!
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John Beaton
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:18 pm, by:  John Beaton (Jbeaton) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was a single per-lane camera I believe. Just been in to look at the photo, and there is no other car in the frame. It was using laser measurement, and having studied enough electronics at uni I can tell you that its pretty precise. Sigh... looks like the soarer will be appearing on carsales very soon ...
Ryan Rankovic
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Victoria
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Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 09:25 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no need to sell John... take rego off it and store it in your garage or backyard.

if you were doing 135, just take the suspension, and you car will be sweeter when you get your licence back.
Ben Dowdell
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SA
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Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 09:32 pm, by:  Ben Dowdell (Ben) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does the camera and the componentry of the camera and the film used meet Australian standards?

you will get off.

was it a particularly windy day? were trees swaying in the breeze? assuming trees are on the eastlink.


just a thought mate, good luck.
Steven Anderson
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Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:58 am, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldnt get your hopes up.

Ive never ever heard of someone who actually knows or personally did get off saying 'there was a tree in the background' or 'it was windy' or argue that there was a car in the other lane or the film was not to australian standards!!1one (digital? maybe you have heard of it).

If someone can come up with an actual case where they have gotten off with any of the bullshit excuses people throw around ill be happy to change my tune, but until then, knowing that with speed cameras, the burden of proof is on you, I think you are pretty much screwed unless a couple of thousand other people complain that that particular camera is faulty.
John Beaton
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Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:44 am, by:  John Beaton (Jbeaton) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As much as I appreciate the encouragement, I think Steven is being realistic. I'm not certain it wasn't my fault, so I think i'm just going to have to grit my teeth and bear it.

The capture method was digital using laser for speed measurement - which is usually spot on.

I can tell you this right now though: I won't ever be speeding again, not even 1 km/h over.

Just out of curiousity ... if you don't hold a license, can you still drive on a track ?
Joe Russell
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Friday, November 28, 2008 - 02:04 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not usually. But I'd be pretty cautious about throwing your license away like that-Cameras and lasers have faults that are looked over to often.

Similar situation:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7033353.stm

The first paragraph that makes you wonder:
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/speed_camera_locations_victoria.htm

Faults with laser cameras:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/south/series7/speed_cameras.shtml

Seriously-if you have the patience, fight it.
I'd be surprised if the camera was completely accurate.
Ben Dowdell
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Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:14 pm, by:  Ben Dowdell (Ben) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't just say it for the sake of it.

friend got off using those exact excuses. not once but twice.

went to court self represented. reversed the burden of proof to the prosecution. camera did not meet Australian standard, case dismissed.

just because you have not heard of it does not mean it did not happen.

would i go in swinging my d*ck about it.... No! nothing is certain before the courts however, it might be worth a shot. i know i would fight to keep to keep driving.

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