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Michael Keen
Goo Roo
nsw
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 06:45 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i sold the auto out of my car, and the buyer is saying it has no second gear.
when in fact i know the box was fine, cause i had a tune done in sydney a few weeks before. and it had no problem doing that, and i drove it around for a few weeks after i got it back from syd, then pulled box out and sent it of.


no what would you do?
it has shift kit, and high torque converter i believe, as it would break traction before it would stall out. and that was about 2800.

now i know them items are worth some money, he only paid 400 for the box..
what are your thoughts..

how do i know he did not stuff something up when fitted it? not adjust cable before taking it for a drive, and burnt second?
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:11 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could it be solenoid related? or is 2nd gear non existent?

I know Michael wouldnt deliberately sell a dodgy box, have dealt with him in the past and currently am as well. Incorrect fluid used? Damage to solenoids during transportation?
David Tra
TryHard
qld
TT

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:11 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If i were in your shoes,

I will stick to my story and wait it out. Its his responsibility to ensure that the installation was carried out correctly ie by a mechanic, you should not be liable for backyard jobs. And if it was ask for a receipt name and phone number. Call him ask more questions. Second gear missing once he installed it or further down the track and again stick to your story. If was fine when i pulled it out.

If he still persist,
there not much you can do, get angry, be a bitch and say its a second hand product, it has not been used for a while but has been working prior to removal. You did not offer any guarantees or warranty on the product. And it was working when you took it out. You stuff up the install etc

What are your thoughts Michael?
Michael Keen
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nsw
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:26 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes he said he is a mechanic, and it will engage second, but just slip.s and wont drive at all
he checked all soilenoids and they ok, and getting 9v to them. so i just dont know, i know it was 100% in working order when i took it out,

that is why i asked for your advice.

i think i will offer 100 refund, and that the best i will do, cause the valve body is worth something and so is converter, is there any other reason why it would not have second.. he did say that the changed the line pressure cable. is that a easy job? maybe he forgot something to be put back in.. or bumped something..
are all soarer auto's the same? all year models?
Daniel Clarke
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NSW
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:35 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe he installed an incorrect Line Pressure Cable?
Michael Keen
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:41 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes that is what my thoughts are as well, but he said it came from another soarer auto. is there different parts numbers maybe? but yeah all other gears are fine just second he said

do you have to pull the valve body out to, change the line cable?
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:52 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Normally yuo have to loosen the valve body or actaully remove it to change the cable, chances are he may have fooked something with the valvebody?
Michael Keen
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Soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:03 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes that is what i am thinking..
cause i know it was right. and i would not have sold it if it was fubar.

so i think, i going no refund. on the grounds he had open the tranny and changed bits and i can not guarntie the auto.

what would you guys do in my situation.
Aaron Casey
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'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged :-)

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:30 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well he has obviously opened it up and had to fiddle. hte fact it was working with yours means you didnt sell him a dodgy trans, maybe he has used wrong oil, maybe fiddled with line cable, probably chucked a few launches and power runs down hte street to check out the shift kit and stally and has blown it up doing so...
David Tra
TryHard
qld
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 09:11 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree. Sounds like he was curious on how the valve body was modified thus opened/fiddled around with it and didnt put it back together?

I wouldnt give the money back if it were me. Id stick to my story and stating it was in working condition prior to removal.
Adrain Parsons
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:19 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hold off and see what he does,i also think he must have played around with it.
Shadi Damouni
TryHard
WA
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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:29 pm, by:  Shadi Damouni (Shado) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buyers discription??

Weight?
Height?
Build?
And most importantly nationality??????

These would all play a large roll in my decision!

Hold out i say, if you want warranty's, you should buy brand new or from a supplier and pay premo prices. He could have done anything to it.

But on the other hand, i think a partial refund would be a good gesture, cause as far as you know the box could have been on its way out. A compromise would make you feel better, in the end cause he still ends up with a burnt gear and would have to fork out more.

My opinion only!!
Sebastian Grant
TryHard
nsw
soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:44 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You don't get a warranty for a car that is under $3000 from a car dealer. Why should you give a warranty on a $400 gearbox?
Michael Keen
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 06:04 am, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i told him how many k's it had on it. he thought cause it had a shift kit, that they rebuilt all the clutch etc etc. well if that was the case it would have been more then a 400 dollar box.

anyway i have found someone that is interested in valve body and maybe converter. so that the best i can do for him.

he even said to me he has no idea about auto's
David Tra
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Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:35 am, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Keen wrote on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 06:04 am:

he even said to me he has no idea about auto's




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