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Mike Bradberry
Goo Roo
Queensland
V8 UnLimited
Posts: 1239
Reg: 07-2005
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Not my research, but someones gone to a lot of trouble to check out this information.
0-100kmph 0-400m
NISSAN
R34 GTT 6.2 14.2
R33 GTS25T 6.18 14.4
R32 GTST 6.5 14.8
GTR
R32 4.7 13
R33 4.9 13.2
R34 4.9 13.1
300ZX Z32 TT 2Seater 5.6 14.2
Silvia S13/180sx
CA18DET 6.9 15
SR20DET 6.2 14.5
S15 Jap spec 5.5 13.8
TOYOTA
MR2 GT 6.12 14.37
Soarer SC400 2.5TT 7 15.1
Soarer SC400 V8 8.9 16.5
Supra RZ 5.92 13.93
Supra SZ 6.6 14.9
Mazda RX7
86-88 Turbo 6.8 14.4
89-91 Turbo 6.5 14.4
95 Twin Turbo 5.2 14.0
Mitsubishi
99 magna V6 8.2 16.2
Holden
VN V6 man 7.9 15.68
VP V6 man 8 15.5
VR V6 auto 9.3 16.8
VN SS 7.4 15.24
VS SS 7.34 15.27
VT SS Gen3 6.4 14.4
VX SS 6.23 14.35
VY SS S1 5.8 14.24
VY SS S2 5.8 13.94
VZ SS 5.82 13.99
HSV
VP GTS 7.2 15.2
VR GTS 6.6 14.8
VX clubsport 5.7 13.9
VX GTS 300 5.1 13.3
VY Clubsport S2 5.3 13.5
Subaru
99 WRX 5.91 14.12
03 WRX 5.8 14
03 STI 5.43 13.62
Ford
EB2 6 9.3 16.8
EL 6 8.9 16.8
AU 6 8.8 16.3
EL XR8 7.5 15.5
BA XR8 6.1 14.1
BA XR6T 5.9 14.1
FPV
Typhoon F6 5.7 14.0
GT 5.9 14.2 |
Ali Saeed
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 LTD
Posts: 199
Reg: 09-2007
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i doubt the sc400 time is right, im sure its under 8 secs |
Ben Daniel
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31 & JZA80
Posts: 1954
Reg: 03-2006
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I believe most of those times are bullsh*t... sorry. |
Tim Ross
DieHard
Qld
V8 50RRA
Posts: 584
Reg: 09-2007
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VN V6 man 7.9 15.68
FASTER THAN A V8 SOARER?????
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA*GASP*HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA |
Michael Clark
Tinkerer
Victoria
UZ31 GT LTD V8
Posts: 6
Reg: 01-2008
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More importantly
99 magna V6 8.2 16.2
I hope they aren't faster than a v8 soarer.
Also are v8 soarers the same as El 6 fords? |
Ben Hesketh
TryHard
WA
UZZ31 v8
Posts: 122
Reg: 02-2008
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Let's not forget the ever dominant '99 Magna as well. *facepalm* |
Ben Hesketh
TryHard
WA
UZZ31 v8
Posts: 123
Reg: 02-2008
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Ha- beat me to it. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 4195
Reg: 10-2005
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UZZ30 in good nick should do under 7 seconds, mine did. Loads of rooted ones around that would struggle in at around 9 seconds though, so maybe its not a bad average based on how poorly these cars are now maintained.
Stock JZZ31 in good nick should be mid to low 6's. Again there are lots of rooted ones around there that would struggle in at 7 seconds or over.
My JZZ31's around 8 seconds, so by those charts I'm quicker than a UZZ30, and there is no way my current car would keep up with my old UZZ30 off the line. |
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 849
Reg: 10-2005
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VN V6's are very quick off the line.
They are very very impressive off the line for the complete POS they are.
V6 magna if that is the 3.5lt then it is correct or at least very close.
V8 soarer depends on which model, it makes a huge difference if it is a uzz30, uzz31 or uzz32. |
Joe Russell
TryHard
Marlborough
4.0 V8 GT-L(UZZ31)
Posts: 296
Reg: 10-2008
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My Soarer does under 7s to 100k. 8.9s would be one •••••• v8, or four people in it... |
Andrew Duaso
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8
Posts: 15
Reg: 02-2009
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all those making fun of the magna really shouldnt,
the auto magnas went okish, but the manual magnas really did hammer, i used to hang around the magna forums till i got banned forever after i sold my magna and tried to preach about the fantastic Aurion and how its far better then the 380 lol
and just out of interese a rent a car pov pak Aurion can easily do 0-100km/h in 6.5 and the 1/4 in 14.6 sec and would be faster without tcl!
but back to the magna, on our various outings to heathcote a manual 3.0L model did a 15.12 stock and the best ever stock time for a 100% stock early model 3.5L with 150kw (later models had 163kw) did a 14.8! 100% stock there has been ralliarts that have done very low 14's stock add 1sec for the auto's
not bad for a stock factory bus... wack on a s/c and you can get 215fwkw on 10psi boost and the last dude who bothered to set it up right was doing 11.8's...
still though a base model aurion will flog a stock V8 soarer LOL and get way better economy too, damn technology... im at the lights with my lowered car on big rims and bfi and loud exhaust only to be hosed by the local librarian when she sees a book sale.. |
James Harris
Goo Roo
QLD
SOARERLESS :-(
Posts: 2616
Reg: 07-2005
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^^ This man speaks the truth, those magnas are surprisingly quick ! Spose a 3.5L V6 isnt really a small engine though either.
As for the other stats.... perhaps people are just getting a little high and mighty cos the V8s have been ousted as slow pieces of poo !!!  |
Michael Clark
Tinkerer
Victoria
UZ31 GT LTD V8
Posts: 8
Reg: 01-2008
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Yeh my mate just bought an auto 3.5L 2000 model magna v6. It is very punchy and responsive.
Feels quicker off the line but the soarer feels faster after 4000rpm and i've been driving it alot as he lost his licence. They're not bad cars magnas even though the fwd.
And the auto gearboxes are way better if not a bit week than our old ones, self learning shift points and very smooth and responsive.
But my car is more fun to drive and is not a family sedan  |
Ty Mackay
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte
Posts: 441
Reg: 01-2009
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i have never driven other soarers so im unsure on this, but in regards to another car i have driven (95 ford probe) and such, my soarer seems like theres a bit of "play" in the accelerator like ill push it down a tiny bit before the engine sorter kicks in,
is this normal or is possible something is a bit loose? |
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 850
Reg: 10-2005
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Ty, adjust your accelerator cable, it is probably stretched.
Sorry but that is complete crap!!!!!! Magnas are a terrible car, they are the worst built japanese car on the planet.
Sure due to the power to weight they go ok in a straight line but they are horrible cars, cheap with the poor build quality and poor design.
It is a tragity that the Camry and Aurion is even compared to a Magna as there is no comparison.
PS there autos are also terrible compared with the likes of a camry or V8 soarer auto. |
Adam Peterson
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Supercharged & Intercooled V8
Posts: 2109
Reg: 04-2006
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Anyone interested in buying my V8 soarer ? Im in the market for a VN V6 or a Magna. |
Andrew Duaso
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8
Posts: 18
Reg: 02-2009
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shows your limited car knowledge Damian
magnas are/were built in Adelaide and the relation to the JDM diamante was just in appearance not the chassis or mechanicals, so JAP car no! the early models were garbage though!
as a point of interest in the later production years they were one of the better screwed together australian built cars much better than both the falcon and commodore only rivaled by the camry, also the 5spd auto in the later magnas was a fantastic auto box and much better than all the offerings from the other locals untill recently..
lastly they do drive quite well, whilst a base model exec pov pack on crappy worn out rubber and shocks will handle pretty crappy, with the basic suspension mods they out handle more cars than you'd believe... there is a ralliart magna with just a unichip and basic suspension mods and good tyres that's otherwise stock mechanically and it does 1.12's at wakefield, thats pretty decent for an under powered giant bargearse fwd family car..
but they are the facts im not sticking up for it, i prefer 2 wheels instead of 4
also a point to note that the EF XR6 was faster than the same model XR8 despite less power and torque |
Ty Mackay
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte
Posts: 445
Reg: 01-2009
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Can anyone help me or give me a rundown on how to tighten it up? i dont really wanna screw anything up! lol |
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 852
Reg: 10-2005
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Andrew, I have a bit of experience with them and heaps of experience with the camrys.
I will repeat this there is no comparison between a magna and a camry and I suggest everyone avoids a magna if they are considering purchasing one.
As to being an aussi car, the manufacture is who and where are they from?? Where is the car designed???
Camry's are also built in Australia and at one stage they were imported. The jap built ones were certainly manufacture to a slightly better standard but the differences were very small and 99% owners would never know.
As to comparing against Holden or Fords, that isn't really relevant for a comparison to a camry. Holden's and Ford's in recent years have been terrible and they have been getting worse and worse over the years.
Sure maybe a Magna can cut it compared with a Falcon but there still is no comparison in the refinement of the design and built quality of the camry.
Ty, I can see how you can stuff this up, it is two nuts that lock. Undo them make a slight adjustment to the cable is just starting to have tension then do up the lock nut. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8
Posts: 3430
Reg: 11-2005
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Your forgot about the BMW's! |
Ty Mackay
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte
Posts: 448
Reg: 01-2009
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thanks for the kind words haha! just joking!
eerrr i dont really wanna have a go because if i loosen it i wont know whats tight and whats loose, i tend to leave things unless i have a general idea on what im doing... |
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT manual
Posts: 1383
Reg: 04-2006
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Damian Ware wrote on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 01:30 pm:worst built japanese car on the planet
Did you mean to say the ONLY Australian built large sedan on the market??? (at least the 380 was- and it really was a Magna after all)
I have always laughed at 'true blue' aussies who only ever buy cars pieced together locally out of american and european leftovers, and wound never buy that 'jap Crap' 100% built in Australia.
It's like buying an apollo over a camry, a maverick over a patrol, courier over a mazda B2600(?- might have got that one wrong...) etc because they are "Australian".
OR
A RHD Lexus SC400 over a Toyota Soarer LOL |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 4804
Reg: 03-2006
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VN's are light cars only 1280-1350kg's and actually did go that fast . Ef Xr6 manual also ran 15.2 stock . was quicker than xr8. |
Tim Ross
DieHard
Qld
V8 50RRA
Posts: 586
Reg: 09-2007
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Courier and B-Series are one and the same Ben  |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10468
Reg: 11-2004
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Ty Mackay wrote on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 05:16 pm:eerrr i dont really wanna have a go because if i loosen it i wont know whats tight and whats loose, i tend to leave things unless i have a general idea on what im doing...
That's why some of us make tutorials. All you need to do, is find them. Hint - Main Menu, For New Soarer Owners. |
Bobby Green
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 225
Reg: 09-2005
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I can confirm that an auto late 90's magna will flog an auto rb25DET skyline in a drag. Ah rental cars... my mate will never live that one down. Lined me up three times and lost each time. |
Andrew Duaso
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8
Posts: 20
Reg: 02-2009
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whats funny is i dragged off a mate in a magna company car but it was a 3.0L auto, him in the magna 1/4 tank
me in my 2002 manual V6 rodeo with me full tank and 2 XR honda 400's and all our gear, not once but 3 times! that was a good ute, much faster than the 65kw hilux it replaced lol |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 4363
Reg: 09-2005
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Ty Mackay wrote on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 05:16 pm:eerrr i dont really wanna have a go because if i loosen it i wont know whats tight and whats loose, i tend to leave things unless i have a general idea on what im doing...
Don't do it if you are unsure and you don't have someone with you to help you out.
If you tighten it too much you will have the throttle open a fraction. |
Ty Mackay
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte
Posts: 455
Reg: 01-2009
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fair enough haha! |
Ali Saeed
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 LTD
Posts: 210
Reg: 09-2007
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lol i doubt an aurion can accelerate faster than a soarer. my v8s flogged frikin integras. gotta love low down power |
Ty Mackay
TryHard
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte
Posts: 458
Reg: 01-2009
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im not sure but the stock aurions pull something like 200kws? the newer models anyway,
integras are pffft lol! |
Adam Barry
DieHard
WA
UZZ31 Soarer, BF Falcon Work Ute
Posts: 674
Reg: 08-2005
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Damian Ware wrote on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 01:30 pm:Magnas are a terrible car, they are the worst built japanese car on the planet.
I dunno, the old Bitsashitty Stigmas were pretty awful.  |
Andrew Duaso
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8
Posts: 21
Reg: 02-2009
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ali a stock aurion will smash a stock std soarer V8
and unless you got a blower hanging off your soarer i dont know where you think the low down power is, but i can tell you there isnt any, with a low peak out put at high rpm and tall gearing the soarer isnt a low down grunter, i had a Valiant with a 360 that had low down grunt, compared to a hondasaki though yes there is much more bottom end, my magna did 2.0 60" times weighing 1950kg with driver auto awd and in the wet, thats off the line balls... my gtech pro even confirms my 1.0L turbo smart car smashes the soarer off the line by over 1.5seconds to 50km/h! LOL
a rental car aurion will do an easy 14.6 on the 1/4 and 0-100 in a genuine not a claimed 6.5 seconds
also they would be even quicker than this but the traction that you cant switch off kills the throttle even before it thinks about wheel spin, but with 204kw and fwd and low 1st gear ratio you cant avoid it...
and up top the stock soarer wont match it either over 100km/h the aurion always has the right ratio when you nail it and the engine screams...
it's a bloody fantastic car for a base pov pak family get about.... not to mention the awesome economy, i drove a 1.4L auto getz around tasmania for 3 days till i got to Hobart and couldnt take it any more, they gave me an aurion i hammered it everywhere and it returned the same consumption as the 1.4L getz and i did more city driving and traffic light gp's in the aurion...
there are though heaps of really crappy things about the aurion too, but the slick engine and auto is fantastic, and the fact that the base car looks like a much higher spec car with the chrome highlights led's and projectors, it's a nice car if you feed the need to own a V6 auto large sedan |
Ali Saeed
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 LTD
Posts: 212
Reg: 09-2007
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always thought the aurion was a decent car....never driven one, but im still a bit skeptic about it beating a v8..ah well, need to buy a blower |
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 855
Reg: 10-2005
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Mate even with a blower running low boost on a V8 soarer they are not as fast as a stock Aurion off the line.
Aurion's are really quick actually amazing quick for a standard family type car. |
Andrew Duaso
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8
Posts: 22
Reg: 02-2009
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to put it this way, more Kw than soarer, 20+ infact as the soarer would have been rated under an old system, 20nm less torque than the V8 though, but to balance that out it's 200kg lighter and has 2 more gears and there are less drivetrain mods being fwd vs rwd...
go rent one it's worth it for a thrash, i was going crazy flooring it everywhere dragging off everyone in tas and had the a/c on 90% of the time and it still returned 9.6L/100km wtf? how!
there are some good aurion vids on youtube dragging all sorts of cars stock in the middle east, 0-200km/h in 20sec
hmm maybe i should have gotten an aurion, game over lol
and to rub more salt into the wounds, someone tested a tarago at calder, a car mag forget who... anyway stock std people mover... same engine and box as aurion... 14.9sec damn!
aurion smoking a mazda3 mps on the strip, hillarious as in another vid the maz3 spanks a VZSS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8rUTCn1FlM |
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 856
Reg: 10-2005
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Aurion will easily achieve 7.5l/100 in real world driving.
Toyota took the exsisting engine technology and went a notch ahead of the rest of the world for mass produced cars.
I think it was a 25% increase in efficiency and 17% more power per CC than there previous engines which were all ready at a world leading standard for standard production cars. |
Ali Saeed
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 LTD
Posts: 215
Reg: 09-2007
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mmm nice figures on it then..i still wouldntve minded it to be rwd, or atleast the trd version be rwd..anyway our 2006 rav4 is actually quite nippy. kept up with a stock vz the other day. |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 4366
Reg: 09-2005
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Dont forget that any non-vvti engine in any Soarer (jzz30,31, uzz3x) is approaching 20 years of age.. =) |
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo
WA
'91 UZZ31 track bunky, '94 blk/blk UZZ31
Posts: 1401
Reg: 07-2005
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Those quoted 400m figures dont add up with what is the norm here
Most people are getting mid 15s out of their stock V8s and high 14s out of stock TTs |
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