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Mike Bradberry
Goo Roo
Queensland
V8 UnLimited

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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 06:42 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that some drivers of these wonderful cars are not driving them to their full potential.
I find some people do not use the auto as a manual ( somewhat limited I know ), don't use left foot braking, are not sure what an entry or exit line is, let alone an apex.
If you want to drive your car quickly, surely you need to know these things as a basis.
One thing you could try, and stay within the speed limits, is to select a section of road which has a long uphill winding section. ( I used to use the road up to Tamborine Mountain ) and take it in the highest gear possible. By doing this you will need to find the best line through a corner to get you out the other side without going back a gear.
Just a thought. Hope it helps some people.
Bobby Green
TryHard
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 07:01 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where/when did you come to this conclusion Mike? Last soarer cruise?
Dave Rose
DieHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 10:14 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think they do know a good line ,but dont want a head on....all that work stuffing the air bags back????
Ali Saeed
TryHard
WA
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 11:19 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rofl at left foot braking on the road. not a very smart thing to do if your not used to it
James Harris
Goo Roo
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 09:09 am, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i was surprised to learn that a cafe latte is EXACTLY the same as a flat white except it comes in a glass.

So all you coffee wankers who order take away cafe lattes and think you are cool... just remember the guy making the coffee is secretly laughing at you hahahaha.

Oh and yes (on topic) drive safely and practice carefully with the left foot braking, it takes time to figure out.
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT

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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 10:43 am, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


James Harris wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 09:09 am:

i was surprised to learn that a cafe latte is EXACTLY the same as a flat white except it comes in a glass.



Thanks James, Iv'e never had a latte but I will make a point next time to order one take away and when they hand it to me in a paper cup I will hand it back in disgust and say I ordered a latte not a flat white and demand my take away glass!
Maurice Diggler
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Victoria
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 12:17 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can just imagine James pulling up outside his favourite coffee shop on his little moped going to sip a latte :-) hahahahahahaha.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
NSW
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 01:54 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is some support on the web for that notion but the flat white is an Australian invention and much of the commentary is from overseas. When I make it at home a flat white is one part coffee, one part hot water and one part hot milk with at most a dash of foam for effect.

To avoid accidentally getting a latte, I am apt to order a long black with hot milk on the side, then add the milk myself, but the double-shot normally used for a long black makes this stronger.

Most people's cornering lines are like their coffee: insipid or overdone and rarely very good.
Phil Gibson
Goo Roo
WA
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 02:37 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Every auto car i ve ever driven i use left foot braking - more control, quicker reactions and why wouldnt you, it not like your left leg has anything else to do...
Rob Rojo
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NSW
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 02:45 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brake pads where a lot quicker too.
Bobby Green
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 04:26 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jesus, James. Cafe lattes and considering buying an MX-5? You sure you weren't in the navy?
Tim Ross
DieHard
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 05:50 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you dont have to be in the navy to be familiar with seamen :-)
Evan Kaio
TryHard
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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 06:26 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An ex Navy bloke I know always used to say,
"You think I joined the Navy because I like boats!!?"
Avin Luther
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Friday, April 10, 2009 - 03:30 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont think latte and flat white are the same.
latte has more milk and is supposed to be 65 degrees, or scullable. A flat white is more water and is hotter.
Mike Bradberry
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Queensland
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Friday, April 10, 2009 - 03:44 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Avin wrote: latte has more milk and is supposed to be 65 degrees,
Is that entry or exit?
David Vaughan
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Friday, April 10, 2009 - 05:47 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depends on timing, Mike.
James Harris
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Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 09:49 am, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HAHAHA.... yeh yeh Haro and his Scooter. Just FYI guys i dont drink much coffee, instead im the guy making them (when i work in the hotel bar) and smirking at the posers who ask for their takeaway lattes.

Bobby dont be like that buddy - you already HAVE a MX-5 ! And looks like im leaning towards the pocket rocket GT Starlet now anyways.

As for the milk... ive been told it all pretty much the same temp as you dont want to burn it. once its burnt it tastes like crap.

Please continue the "I was surprised to learn...." thread
David Vaughan
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Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 10:57 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The milk is always in the range 60-70 degrees but more water, which is about 90 when pulled, makes it hotter.
David Henderson
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Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 09:30 pm, by:  David Henderson (Hendo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was recently supprised to learn that stripper poles actually spin, they have bearings!
Kristian Sibum
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WA
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Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 09:38 pm, by:  Kristian Sibum (2jz_wa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not all of them do, only amateurs use rotating poles (no pun intended)
Tom Nicol
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Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 09:01 am, by:  Tom Nicol (Goosemonger) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Harry Newman wrote on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 11:42 am:

A latte has more milk and a head. unlike the flatwhite which should have no milk head.

There are differences but most people don't even know how to make them anymore...



Spot on, Harry.

And now, thanks to David I am picturing strippers spinning around on poles and then going too fast and not being able to stop.

To get back on topic - Mike you're right about how a lot of soarers are driven, so to fix this, do you (or anyone) have some resources or tips to perhaps help people use more of the car's potential?
Mike Bradberry
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Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 12:32 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, that's a difficult thing to do with the written word and probably would take more space than could be accommodated here.
If you were ever in Qld, I would be more than happy to show you some of the things I learned at advanced driving courses in Sydney.
David Vaughan
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Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 03:00 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Read a book.

In 1966, a year after I got my licence, I read "The Art and Technique of Driving" by Pat Moss (Stirling's sister, a rally driver) and Erik Carlsson (her beau, who won the Monte Carlo in a Saab 544 of all things). As well as having plenty of advice about driving lines it also introduced the Hendon system for advanced driving for police, these days implemented at a basic level in learner courses. Read it these days and the anachronisms (chokes, no synchro on first, hand signals, police in the middle of intersections and so on) are difficult to take but most of the advice remains correct.

I also went on a "defensive driving" course spread over weekly sessions of theory and on-road driving with an ex-police instructor in 1971, courtesy of Renault who were giving away the courses to buyers of Renault 16TS.

There will be later books. I subsequently took advice (wish it were in person) from an article by Jackie Stewart and a book by Alain Prost to good effect, as well as other odd tid-bits from reading. The only thing I learned specifically from one-day courses on which my then employer sent me in the 90s was how to stop using ABS on wet tarmac (smash your foot on the brake and keep it there -- it is cleverer than Schumacher or even you).

Have a look around.

HTH
Ben Kelly
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Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 08:12 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

left foot braking, great if you want to reduce your braking power in an emergency as you plant both feet to the floor. Or if you just want to wear out your brakes and transmission. If you want to be a boy racer id suggest get a manual, go to the track and practice heel-toe braking.
Peter Burrett
DieHard
ACT
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Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 09:49 pm, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't this get off subject? I fink Mike was on the money.....Oooops

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