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Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited
Posts: 140
Reg: 07-2009
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Just lookin through youtube and I came across this video. Who the hell would do this and why !!
Dumb Rednecks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3K78oFqE9Q&feature=related |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1807
Reg: 08-2005
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GE motor. Who cares. |
Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited
Posts: 143
Reg: 07-2009
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really ? I didn't know that lol |
Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD
Posts: 144
Reg: 03-2009
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That's f**n bull! I hate when people do •••• like this, makes me so angry. |
Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited
Posts: 145
Reg: 07-2009
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Yea its pointless. Hey i'm bored lets go blow up a car ! W@NKERS! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
4.0GT UZZ30
Posts: 3791
Reg: 11-2005
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Their car, their money.
The fools. |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
V8 Limited
Posts: 1140
Reg: 09-2007
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GE is the NA supra. GTE is the TT |
Matt Sartori
TryHard
Western Australia
Rx7
Posts: 338
Reg: 08-2008
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Whats the problem, exactly?
They were obviously going to do an engine swap or something.
its fun destroying something that works before you replacing whatever it is! |
Aaron Casey
Goo Roo
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged 
Posts: 1445
Reg: 08-2005
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but wouldnt you keep it in case your new setup dies or just sell it off and make some money. |
Matt Sartori
TryHard
Western Australia
Rx7
Posts: 339
Reg: 08-2008
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Maybe it was already showing signs of wear and year?
That engine really didn't last long at all considering.
i doubt the 2jzge are worth much, if anything in the states |
David Tra
Goo Roo
qld
TT
Posts: 1142
Reg: 11-2007
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Some people just have too much money and too much time on their hands. |
Chan Huynh
Tinkerer
VIC
Soarer TT
Posts: 31
Reg: 12-2007
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Can't believe that there are idiots out there that don't appreciate Soarers. What dumb a** |
Rod Iseppi
DieHard
wa
86 chev silverado with 6.0L and T56 goodness ...
Posts: 909
Reg: 01-2006
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its the cash for clunkers scheme in the states, people trade in their old less economical cars and in return they get a voucher for a certain amount off a new economical "green" car. but the traded cars have to have the motors destroyed then the bodys can either be parted out and sold as parts or crushed. so dont go on bitchin bout it being a nice car being destroyed, ive seen nicer cars theyve destroyed... these yards get all these cars and have big demo derbys with them then poor sodium silicate in the motor an on the limiter for 10 mins...
its stupid i know and the program has been stopped in most places... google it..... |
Rod Iseppi
DieHard
wa
86 chev silverado with 6.0L and T56 goodness ...
Posts: 910
Reg: 01-2006
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Allowance_Rebate_System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYL-h5_hb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8znvz97FfbY&feature=PlayList&p=12671F6CF19C0A13&playnext=1&playnext_f rom=PL&index=69
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qJD8AMRWP4 |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1808
Reg: 08-2005
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Aaron Casey wrote on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:51 pm:but wouldnt you keep it in case your new setup dies or just sell it off and make some money.
Not worth the space keeping it or the time to advertise and sell it for the $0 you'd get. Who wants old motors sitting around? If you were doing a swap and the new one died, you'd fix the new one, not go backwards.
That motor is not worth the time so if blowing something up is fun, go for it.
And yep, cash for clunkers. |
Brett Cutts
TryHard
south australia
tt and a v8 again woo hoo
Posts: 305
Reg: 07-2008
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as a wise man once said only in america  |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1812
Reg: 08-2005
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Huh. People blow up motors everywhere. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 4752
Reg: 10-2005
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I'd say it was pretty far gone to start with, or had most of the oil removed considering how quick it was to die. Still a totally retarded redneck thing to do though.
"Dang!"  |
Aiden Cheese
Tinkerer
QLD
Soarer jzz30
Posts: 66
Reg: 09-2009
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The less soarers there are, the more rare yours will be, value will rise.
I'm unphased, I'd be more unhappy if they destroyed something like a genuine shelby cobra. |
Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited
Posts: 150
Reg: 07-2009
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haha i'm gonna hunt all soarers down and destroy them lol Ill have the last soarer on earth haha not! |
Rod Iseppi
DieHard
wa
86 chev silverado with 6.0L and T56 goodness ...
Posts: 912
Reg: 01-2006
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they drop the oil and pour sodium silicate in the motors to kill them thats why the die so quick. its basicly liquid glass so it destroys all the internals and renders the block "rooted".... |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1815
Reg: 08-2005
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Who cares. It's a 15 year old car worth a couple grand with a motor worth squat. I'm surprised anyone cares. Blowing stuff up is fun. |
Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited
Posts: 152
Reg: 07-2009
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A Soarer is a Soarer and they should be looked after not destroyed by dumb F*@Kin rednecks!.No matter the age! |
Aiden Cheese
Tinkerer
QLD
Soarer jzz30
Posts: 69
Reg: 09-2009
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Miles Baker wrote on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 02:07 pm:I'm surprised anyone cares
You're surprised that on a Soarer forum, dedicated to Soarers, that people hold emotional investments to these vehicles? Or are you just trolling? |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1816
Reg: 08-2005
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On the Chevy forums noone cares if someone blows up a small block.
Are you seriously telling me you want a 2JZGE cluttering up your garage? Obviously they didn't want the motor.
I never realised there were such tight arse packrats around. Jesus. It's an old motor. Have at it if you don't want it. I smash stuff I don't want all the time if it isn't worth salvage or sale. |
Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited
Posts: 153
Reg: 07-2009
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Chevy's are common not even compareable to soarers. And yea I wouldnt mind a spare engine in my shed. Go play with your chevy but dont come on here and tell us old soarers are crap after all this is a SOARER forum for people who own or appreciate SOARERS !! |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1817
Reg: 08-2005
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Whatever dude. Hey I've got some old shoes here if you want them. Probably a good couple months wear left. I was gonna throw them away but you might like to put them away in the shed for no good reason at all?
Seriously what is anyone going to do with a 2JZGE? Anyone? Any suggestions? They aren't even worth anything here let alone in the US. |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1818
Reg: 08-2005
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Got some bog roll here for ya too. I'm a little wasteful, there surely is a couple wipes left in it. I was gonna flush but if you hurry over with a stick you could fish it out. |
Mark Tierney
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GTT, Celsior, Ducati
Posts: 322
Reg: 09-2005
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I'd be happy to take a 2JZ-GE if there are any going. I have 1.5 perfect uses for it. |
Rod Iseppi
DieHard
wa
86 chev silverado with 6.0L and T56 goodness ...
Posts: 913
Reg: 01-2006
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hahahahaaa... funny, some people get so worked up.... |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1820
Reg: 08-2005
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It's not that easy to make a 1.5JZ out of a 2JZGE. There are a lot of differences between the GE and GTE. Like I said, 2JZGEs just aren't worth anything. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 4759
Reg: 10-2005
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Miles Baker wrote on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 02:33 pm: I smash stuff I don't want all the time if it isn't worth salvage or sale.
Hehe, that reminds me of Homer Simpson.
"I'll smash it, I'll smash it good, hahahaha!"
Guess Aussies/Kiwi's have a different view on whats useful and worth keeping than Americans - I mean there are so many magpie types in NZ and Australia that have back yards full of stuff they just might need some day - don't think that happens as much in the US. |
Mark Tierney
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GTT, Celsior, Ducati
Posts: 324
Reg: 09-2005
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The GE's are perfect for the 1.5. Forged pistons in a GE don't require oil squirters & compression can be adjusted with the rebuild/headgasket. But don't let fact stand in the way of a great debate.
Anyways, when does Bam Margera & Johnny Knoxville appear in this thread? |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1821
Reg: 08-2005
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And what are you going to stick that GE blocked 1.5JZ into? It has a distributor not a crank trigger like the GTE block. So you would need to run it in a GE car, or buy a whole GE harness and ECU. And if you were running it in a GE car, you would already have a GE block, so these boys wouldn't be selling it to you, so they are free to blow it up. And you wouldn't buy all the electronics because for that price you could have just dropped in a GTE block in the first place and saved yourself the wiring problems and thick head gasket.
Think about it. 2JZGEs are worthless. Noone would ever buy one. |
Michael Brown
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited, Ralliart Magna, Holden Camira
Posts: 158
Reg: 07-2009
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stop F@#KING arguing . we all have different oppinions about this so thats that! |
Matt Sartori
TryHard
Western Australia
Rx7
Posts: 343
Reg: 08-2008
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Michael Brown wrote on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 12:49 pm:stop F@#KING arguing . we all have different oppinions about this so thats that!
Hardly an arguement...
Its a debate, yes people have different opinions, which is why they're discussing it? |
Sebastian Grant
DieHard
nsw
soarer TT
Posts: 701
Reg: 01-2008
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If anyone bothered to read the comments the maker of the video just bought a gte motor with a 6 speed transmission. Has anyone on here ever put a ge motor into their soarer? These engines should never have been put in soarers and I'm glad to see another one bite the dust. Worth less pieces of junk I say and the car in the video is probably now cruising the streets with a 6 speed 2jz-gte so it's doing a lot better than many of the cars on this forum. |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 69 Nova SS Clone
Posts: 1822
Reg: 08-2005
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It amazes me how people on this forum have such a problem with differing opinions. Michael you have posted by the far the most inflammatory comments on this thread and cannot accept the fact that I don't agree with you without resorting to abuse, semi-racism or bad language/shouting. |
James Cahir
TryHard
ACT
Soarer TT
Posts: 292
Reg: 04-2008
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And, blowing stuff up is super fun. |
Matt Sartori
TryHard
Western Australia
Rx7
Posts: 344
Reg: 08-2008
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James Cahir wrote on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 02:18 pm:And, blowing stuff up is super fun.
+1
You're not a real man if you don't enjoy blowing •••• up. |
Rod Iseppi
DieHard
wa
86 chev silverado with 6.0L and T56 goodness ...
Posts: 914
Reg: 01-2006
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^ agreed... |
David Tra
Goo Roo
qld
TT
Posts: 1152
Reg: 11-2007
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Miles Baker wrote on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 04:32 pm:Hey I've got some old shoes here if you want them
you dont have an old tooth brush for sale do u? lol |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 1152
Reg: 10-2005
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The GE block is perfect for a 1.5JZ conversion as it is the same 3.0lt block as the turbo model. It can be used to build a built 3.0lt bottom end combined with 1jz sensors and running gear and 1jz head.
I am 99% sure this has been done before on more than one occasion in a soarer with the 1jz sensors being used to replace the GE sensors.
But most cases a GE engine isn't worth much and selling it could be more trouble than the $$$$ you could get for it. |
Mark Tierney
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GTT, Celsior, Ducati
Posts: 325
Reg: 09-2005
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Exactly. Same block minus galleries.
Keep the wiring harness from the 1JZ and all the top end bits & pieces. A couple of 2JZ bits are needed...water pump, timing belt, serpentine tensioner, head gasket & also the 1jz sump. The Dizzy is gone with the GE head, so no issue there. No GE car, harness or ECU required or desired.
Sure, the GE's not worth much in standard trim, but tweak the bottom end with forgies etc, bolt it up to a 1jz head...there's your extra half a litre. This is a cheaper option for anyone that has work done on their 1jz top end...moreso than buying a whole 2JZ-GTE, then beginning the modding process.
Been done plenty of times & heaps of documentation & reference all over the net.
This thread is great, just like an episode of Mythbusters, and with the blow stuff up part too! |
Kyle Wathen
DieHard
Vic
JZZ30 Manual GT-T
Posts: 870
Reg: 02-2007
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Matt Sartori wrote on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 03:16 pm:James Cahir wrote on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 02:18 pm:
And, blowing stuff up is super fun.
+1
You're not a real man if you don't enjoy blowing •••• up.
+ 1,000,000
Its his car he can do what he wants with it! |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 4761
Reg: 10-2005
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The 2JZ-GE is a fine motor and far from worthless. Sure it'll barely pull the skin off a rice pudding compared to the GTE, but its still a fantastic match for the Soarer for a great town n country cruising car. Thats why I own one - gets me from Hamilton to Auckland in quiet enjoyable comfort a couple of times a week, and after doing 100,000km's in it since I bought it, has cost me a cam belt, a set of plugs, a dizzy cap and rotor, a PCV valve, and about 15 filters and 75 litres of oil. Damn reliable, and I can do all the work on it myself. |
Sebastian Grant
DieHard
nsw
soarer TT
Posts: 706
Reg: 01-2008
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Yes but the 1uz ticks all those boxes and has more power. |
Rod Iseppi
DieHard
wa
86 chev silverado with 6.0L and T56 goodness ...
Posts: 916
Reg: 01-2006
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and your all still forgetting why theyre blowing it up.... its not coz they dont want the motor or the potential they could have done with that motor...
its not their car, they dont care, the govenment pays them to destroy motors, theres probly been alot more 1jz`s, 2jz`s, 1uz`s that have suffered the same fate. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 4763
Reg: 10-2005
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Sebastian Grant wrote on Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 12:08 pm:Yes but the 1uz ticks all those boxes and has more power.
2jz is still a lot cheaper to run though. |
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