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Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 215
Reg: 01-2010
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Long story short. My te37's should be here within a week or so. 19x8.5 front 19x9.5 rear, +20. However, not sure which tyres to get. I was thinking maybe 245 on the front and 275/285 on the rear? Don't want to spend "too" much on them but I want quality rubber. |
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R
Posts: 1805
Reg: 09-2007
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Ive always been happy with Federal SS595's  |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31
Posts: 2097
Reg: 09-2007
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sounds alright i guess..have you got rolled/pulled guards? |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 216
Reg: 01-2010
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yep, rear guards have been rolled |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 5457
Reg: 10-2005
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http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/proxes-4?quicktabs_pattern=SS#quicktabs-pattern
Not a huge selection available in 19's - you would have to limit yourself to 265's at the rear - they are a fantastic tyre though, I've had mine for 4000km's now and they still surprise me how good they are for the price. |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 217
Reg: 01-2010
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hmmmm
i can actually choose to have 10.5's also. so i could have 9.5 on the front and 10.5 on the rear. or would 8.5 front and 9.5 rear be better? |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31
Posts: 2098
Reg: 09-2007
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depends on how slow you want to go on a stocko engine |
Sean Routledge
DieHard
Victoria
V8 Limited
Posts: 680
Reg: 07-2008
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Does fitting 19's or 20's have a NOTICEABLE effect on acceleration? |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 219
Reg: 01-2010
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Ali Saeed wrote on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 08:42 am:
Please expand on this.. |
Matt Newman
TryHard
QLD
soarer tt
Posts: 209
Reg: 11-2007
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+1 for the toyo proxes 4's |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 220
Reg: 01-2010
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how much would i be looking at for a set of proxes 4's 245 front/265 rear? |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31
Posts: 2101
Reg: 09-2007
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well stocko tire size is 215/225. by going with a 10.5 inch rim with 275-295 would return terrible fuel economy, and your car wont accelerate as fast because there is more friction from the tires. i wouldnt go bigger than 265s on a stock engine. |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 222
Reg: 01-2010
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but wouldnt the bigger tyres also reduce wheelspin when taking off? |
Lucas Waterworth
Tinkerer
north island, nz
2.5tt auto
Posts: 27
Reg: 03-2010
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I have basic TOYO tires on my tt, on stock rims, and I have never lost rear traction on seal with those. even if I launch on a gravel shoulder then go onto seal they will grab rather than spin. a better question would be how fast you want to corner, because that is where poor tires will annoy you. |
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro
Posts: 1435
Reg: 10-2008
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lower profile tyres dosnt mean more traction.
Why do you think drag cars have big chunky rubber?
Basically, larger profile tyres when you accelerate, twist and grab pushing away.
Low profiles have no give in the tyres and as such will wheel spin easier, rubber band tyres fail for performance, purely a look thing haha |
Christian Somerville
TryHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD
Posts: 476
Reg: 03-2009
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Maybe geta bit of stretch. |
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Active V8 and the Beast.
Posts: 2511
Reg: 07-2005
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I have 275 semi's and can't hold 3rd in the dry on bitumen.
Low profile has less sidewall flex, which gives better feedback and feel (not increased grip), and reduces heat buildup. Neither of which will do much for you on the road.
There is also an increased chance of wheel damage from poor road surfaces as there is less tyre cushion there to protect the wheels (pot holes etc), and the possibility of reduced grip as the tyre can't follow the road surface as well.
Mate, if they float your boat, and you can afford to put GOOD tyres on them, then go for it. Don't be put off by the nay sayers.
If you're going to get crap tyres, then get a smaller wheel that you can afford good tyres. If you can put good tyres on these, then go for it. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe
Posts: 4511
Reg: 11-2005
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IMO, 235/245s front maximum
Rear, 245/255...
I don't see why you need 275/285's on a 225hp 2JZ, unless its purely for looks? |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31
Posts: 2106
Reg: 09-2007
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Warren you wont be able to get much wheel spin in an auto 2jzge anyway |
David Grab
Goo Roo
SA
T78
Posts: 2267
Reg: 01-2008
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If you want awesome grip i would recommend highly Hankook ventus RS-II. There are about 7 varient of them but the 2 most expensive ones is what you want. Crazy grip in wet, dry and cornering.
Also Warren if you dont mind me asking how much did you get the TE37's for, new or used? |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 5464
Reg: 10-2005
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Some really good advise here - you are much better off spending less on smaller wheels and more on quality tyres than vice versa - particularly as at 19" at +20 offset in a daily driver you will totally screw the ride and handling quality. However in the end its your choice.
I paid $219NZD each fitted & balanced for my Proxes 4's, but they are only 245/50/R16's. I expect a 19 would cost a lot more. |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 223
Reg: 01-2010
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David Grab wrote on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:49 am:Also Warren if you dont mind me asking how much did you get the TE37's for, new or used?
I will probably get flamed however they are not genuine te37's. They are a copy made by the manufacturer JLB motorsports. I paid $1600USD for the set of 4 with textured matte black powercoat.
http://g35driver.com/forums/wheels-tires-vendor/315840-19-wheels-concave-deep-lip-jlb-motorsports-ap ollo-wheel-staggered-available.html |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 1473
Reg: 10-2005
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Warren, I would suggest you would need to spend to get quality tyres at least $600 per rear in those sizes.
For what it is worth for a daily driver I wouldn't bother with anything bigger than 18's and I would certainly go at least 245's on the front.
17-18's with 245's on the front and 245-265's on the rear. |
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Active V8 and the Beast.
Posts: 2513
Reg: 07-2005
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Also remember that the wider the tyre the easier it will aquaplane, even with good tread. |
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Active V8 and the Beast.
Posts: 2516
Reg: 07-2005
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Mike Beck wrote on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 09:49 pm:I don't see why you need 275/285's on a 225hp 2JZ, unless its purely for looks?
It looks tough.
Maybe he's planning now for future 2J turbo goodness, where he'd certainly need that and more. |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 1474
Reg: 10-2005
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Sure do and it is worth keeping in mind.
IMO you should also look at a legal offsets closer to factory specs. |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 225
Reg: 01-2010
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I'd be looking at throwing in a turbo setup in the future, would be a while though as I need full license.
And yes, I want it to look tough. I think I'll just go 245's on the front and 265's on the rear.
I want a flush finish, something similar to this:
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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe
Posts: 4515
Reg: 11-2005
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I am with Matt Sharpe on this one.
Be aware 245's might rub on the inside of the body at full lock with 19" 245's
Not fun. |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 1475
Reg: 10-2005
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My sure do comment was regarding to the aquaplaning.
Something to add +50 offset with 275 tyres just clear factory rear guards by the smallest margin.
Likewise there have been posts of 265 with +45 offset just clearing, I would think +20 and 265 will not fit even with rolled guards. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe
Posts: 4517
Reg: 11-2005
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Damian Ware wrote on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:31 pm:I would think +20 and 265 will not fit even with rolled guards.
Yeah I would be extremely doubtful.
Also I agree to spend $600+ each for decent tires if they are going to be the sizes mentioned.
Ultimately if you get el-cheapo big rear tires your wasting your time, being left with big lumps of rubber that will offer poor grip in certain or most conditions & be more than likely out of balance causing a nice motorway shimmy.
I think 245's on 18's would be the best all round on a daily basis, at least you can rotate them that way. Often with wheel choice the pros and cons to different setups aren't considered, it might be appealing to have big 19's and super low profile tires for a few weeks but fast forward 4 months you will probably be sick of the harsh ride. |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 228
Reg: 01-2010
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Yeah well my soarer is ultimately just for cruisin etc. I have a ute for work. So I'm willing to sacrifice comfort for looks.
The idea of rotating tyres seems good. How about 245's all round on my 19's? would that be ok? |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31
Posts: 2112
Reg: 09-2007
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245s on 9.5 should be okay, because TT supra rims come with 255s on a 9.5. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 5468
Reg: 10-2005
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245's at 30 or 35 profile on a 9.5 at 19" falls into the normal range for most manufacturers. Wheather it fits under the guards at that offset, I have no idea.
Supra's only have 16 or 17" wheels so can get away with a bigger range of widths. As profile decreases so do tolerances - and of course a Supra 17" rim is +50 offset so will fit the 255's under the guards with no problems. |
Brett Davidson
Tinkerer
Queensland
JZZ30 TT
Posts: 20
Reg: 08-2009
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Here is a photo of my fitment with 19"x8.5" +35 on the front and 19"x9.5" +35 on the back. 225/40 tyres all round. You can see the fitment to the guard on the back in this photo and the fitment on the front is identical. If you look down from directly above my guards the top outer edge of the wheel is exactly flush with the guard.
http://qubitonline.com/soarer/IMG_0514.JPG
So with the 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 +20 offset they would be 15mm further out than my wheels. Take into account wider wheels than my 225's all round and you can imagine what it would be like. |
Warren Moore
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE
Posts: 229
Reg: 01-2010
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Yeah, well it should look something similar to the picture i posted above as im fairly sure they are the same spec wheels, not sure what tyres they are though |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer 2.5GT-T/GS300
Posts: 1767
Reg: 07-2005
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They look like (iirc) LE37's to me. They're not bad for rep wheels.
In those wheel sizes I'd say go for a 235/35 front and 245/35 rear (rear can change though, depending how low your car is etc etc).
I've got a mix n match of tyres on mine at the moment. Yokohamas and Kumhos. To be honest, the Kumhos KU31's are quite good for the money. |
Jesse Chen
Tinkerer
QLD
JZZ30 TT
Posts: 14
Reg: 04-2010
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I would imagine that car in the picture you posted runs something along the lines of
225/35 or 40 on the rear going by the stretch .
255 and upwards will look nothing like what you have posted and it will look like a commodore balloon tyre.
Here is a website to give you an idea of fitment.
http://www.tyrestretch.com/index.php |
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