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Natasha D'Abreo
DieHard
Victoria
TT

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Reg: 10-2009

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Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 02:29 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do shifts kits put more strain on your transmission? and eventually cause oil leaks? thats what my mechanic said... Just wondering what stage shift kit is best to get?
Daniel Arndt
Tinkerer
Vic
UZZ31 LTD

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Reg: 03-2010

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Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 03:38 pm, by:  Daniel Arndt (Darndt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard the opposite. I've not much experience with them but the theory I heard is it REDUCES stress on the transmission, and should last longer as it doesn't need to "slip" as much. So maybe it reduces wear on the bands?
David Tra
Goo Roo
qld
AWD

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Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 04:01 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dont do it. It takes away the comfort and luxury of the Soarer.
Natasha D'Abreo
DieHard
Victoria
TT

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Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 04:38 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wont be putting it on my soarer, maybe my commodore, but commodores tranmissions tend to stuff up quite quick even when serviced regularly.
Boris Siljanoski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 11:11 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

Shift kit from what i've heard reduces the strain on the transmission. However the quicker shifts will cause extra strain on the shafts on the drivetrain that may be what your mechanic was trying to say

Why do you want a shift kit in your commodore? Just convert to manual or are you trying to run better times at the drag strip?

If your transmission is extremely lazy, then a shift kit will not help

Reason why Commodore transmissions stuff up quickly is because most are used by retards who do skids in them, then the car quickly goes up on carsales when the transmission is beggining to let go.

Now the new buyer who services his transmission regularly to their hearts content will always have these problems that are only rectified with a rebuild.
Daniel Arndt
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Vic
UZZ31 LTD

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Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 06:58 am, by:  Daniel Arndt (Darndt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I had a TT auto I would defiantly be doing something about the auto. Mines a V8 so I'm not so concerned. It is a bit of a barge anyway.

Tash what model commodore? I had a shift kit in my V8 VN and it was great. I sold the car with over 350k.km on the clock with original engine and transmission, still running fine. (and not like it was babied either)

If its a later model Commodore just get it re-tuned and shift points sharpened up. We got our 02 Gen3 Statesman re-tuned, as the factory tune in these are set for luxury and the changes and power output are crap. Now it shifts much better without any mechanical mods at all, and makes a heap more power.
Natasha D'Abreo
DieHard
Victoria
TT

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Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 10:08 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thinking about putting it in a VP, little old, but still. I was going to put it my old VR but that gone now. Was thinking a mini spool too? I just wanted to get something done to it thats not too big (changing to manual) too have a little fun with.
The VP lexcen was quite cheap as well. We have 6months to get all the things we want done. Need to get the road worthy first, which only needs a handbrake alignment, power window switch, had to change the mirrors to manual as they didnt work and a the brakes are real stiff as well as the power steering. but the mechanic said the rack and pump looked fine... dont know...
Boris Siljanoski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

Posts: 963
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 02:33 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

P/S Pump could not be building enough pressure?

Mini Spool = Making yourself look like a total retard at the parking lot and shredding your tyres quickly with time. Get an LSD Diff but then again do you really need it.
James Buchan
TryHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 07:12 am, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just weld the diff, after all it is only a VP
Natasha D'Abreo
DieHard
Victoria
TT

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 08:05 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

before everything, need to get a rwc
Natasha D'Abreo
DieHard
Victoria
TT

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 08:06 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

boris are you on your red P's?
Nathan Hlad
DieHard
NT
JZZ30 TT

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 05:28 pm, by:  Nathan Hlad (Jackpot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

everybody knows that holden have no idea how to make good transmission, isnt it obvious over the last 60 years ?!?! even the ve box isnt that special
Boris Siljanoski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 10:24 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Natasha, no
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer Single Turbo Manual

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Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:42 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just sell the VP and get a new air freshener for the Soarer with the proceeds from sale.
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer Single Turbo Manual

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Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:44 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But on a serious note, a shift kit is better for the Auto as its not allowing as much slip between gear changes but does heat up more, so make sure you get a trans cooler at the same time.
Boris Siljanoski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Friday, June 11, 2010 - 09:08 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just wondering, if it makes the clutches slip less, how come it makes more heat?}
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer Single Turbo Manual

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Friday, June 11, 2010 - 09:23 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Because of the increased pressure in the transmission. More pressure= More Heat.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 01:17 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Rob Rojo wrote on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 07:44 pm:

so make sure you get a trans cooler at the same time


Be weary that you dont overcool your trans fluid. Auto transmissions are like snags; they dont want to have too much or too little of something, it has to be spot on.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 02:30 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More pressure = more heat , but alot less heat than burning / slipping clutches will make ;)

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