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Shadi Sabbagh
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Reg: 03-2009

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 12:51 pm, by:  Shadi Sabbagh (Shadz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys,
I went to pick up my soarer from my mechanic yesterday after he was to change the coilpacks, spark plugs and fuel filter and Throttle body Coolant Bypass. He told me the car was ready to drive off, i turned the car on(it started up fine), only to see an ABS error coming up on the dash, and when i went to press the bake and move the auto selector into DRIVE it wouldnt move, its stuck in Park, the only way was to press the red button down and move the selector into Drive. So, me and him went checking for blown fuses, first we checked the engine bay ones, they were all good, the he went down to the drivers side footwell for the interior fuses to find that the ECU fuse had blown, he changed it over, An IT JUST BLEW AGAIN, he repeated it about three times, each time the ecu fuse BLEW! so he told me to come back on monday when i finish exams and work on it in his workshop to find the cause(as he claimed he took it for a test drive after he finished fixing it and it was fine)!

So these are the symptoms after coilpacks, spark plugs and fuel filter and Throttle body Coolant Bypass where replaced/fixed:

- Car starts and drives fine
- ABS Error on Dash
- Auto selector wont move from Park when the brake is pressed, only with the red button
- Ecu fuse blowing, every time a new fuse is installed

So, my question is What could be the Problem and how do i solve it?

Thanks heaps guys
Cheers
Gary Poloskei
DieHard
A.C.T
Soarer JZZ30 GT-TL

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 01:42 pm, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were the coil packs genuine?
Cameron James
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT-TL

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Reg: 09-2009

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 02:12 pm, by:  Cameron James (Dinosoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Based on the (only) wiring diagram I could find, the wiring from the fuse is uninterupted from the junction box all the way to the ECU - a fuse that keeps popping indicates either a short circuit in the wiring or a short circtuit in the ECU. Run a jumper wire directly from the fuse to the ECU to check it. I dont think the work you have had done is too closely related to this wiring - it could be a coincidence... or not

Shadi Sabbagh
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 05:59 pm, by:  Shadi Sabbagh (Shadz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Cameron for that, will pass the info onto my mechanic!
Gary, the coilpacks are superspark, many have them in their 1jz and they have proven to be just as good as OEM so far!
Shane Haverkamp
TryHard
nsw
soarer TT

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 07:54 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thats pretty dodgy that he's not claiming responsibility for it. yet he's conveniently letting you work on it in his work shop.

could the computer its self be shorting out somewhere inside causing it to happen?

but yeah i'd trace over all the wiring making sure something hasn't been cut or melted causing it to earth out?
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 08:04 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

using a multimeter measure the resistance from the ecu side of the fuse to the chassis. It will measure close to zero (the cause of the fuse blowing).

now unplug the ecu, if resistance is still~zero, wire is "pinched 'and shorting to chassis.Look for damage in the areas the mechanic worked. If resistance goes to open cct, the fault is in the ecu.
Cameron James
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT-TL

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 08:36 pm, by:  Cameron James (Dinosoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know it seems kinda coincidental that the issue came up but I think its a bit unfair to automatically assume the mechanic is dodgey for not claiming responsibility...

I just read the symptoms you gave for the second time and I think I gave you a bum steer Shadi. Sorry about that! If the ABS light is on and the shift lock will not disengage, then it sounds more related to the ABS control unit. Are you 100% sure it is the ECU (engine control unit) fuse thats popping? If the ECU fuse blew then you would not be able to start the engine :/

I just had a good look thru the JZZ30 pin outs and I cant see a pin that controls the shift-lock solenoid - so it is more than likely that its involved with the ABS control unit (would explain why you are getting an ABS fault on the dash.

I found this diagram on Soarerworld that may help
Slav Todorovic
TryHard
nsw
tt pov pack

Posts: 191
Reg: 05-2009

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:18 pm, by:  Slav Todorovic (Soar_loser) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dodgey mechanic i say :-)
Shadi Sabbagh
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 05:56 pm, by:  Shadi Sabbagh (Shadz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

will look into on tuesday guys, as i have my last exams tomorrow another thing to mention, i intalled a DIY fuel cut defender made of 8 diodes, to the ecu( i think connected it to the map wire and cant remember what else)i got it off an old post here! i disconnected it now, but i think this caused a short circuit in the ECU, as NONE OF THE ELECTRICS WORK in the car, ONLY THE DASH!
Will be getting a another ECU on tuesday and putting it in to see if its the problem!
Cheers
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 06:15 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Possibly blew the interior lighting/electrics fuse?
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 10:51 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

did you measure the resistance as per the earlier post?
Narvey Vilaythong
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SA
soarer tt and 3T-GTE corona liftback

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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:04 pm, by:  Narvey Vilaythong (El_pablo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make sure none of the wires from the coil packs have any cuts in them ect ect as the can make contact with other parts on around the rocker covers n cause a surge. Try to go through every possible wire that could of been touched
Shadi Sabbagh
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 05:46 pm, by:  Shadi Sabbagh (Shadz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i had a look today, its the ECU IGN fuse that is blowing! I unplugged the ecu and the electrics satarted working(windows and sunroof)i havnt tried it with a multmeter yet because i couldnt find mine, just found it though, so will give it another go tomorrow!
Just a question, What does the ECU IGN fuse for? what does it power?
Cheers
Cameron James
TryHard
NSW
Soarer GT-TL

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 06:27 pm, by:  Cameron James (Dinosoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Translated wiring diagram required!!!
Shadi Sabbagh
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:25 pm, by:  Shadi Sabbagh (Shadz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys? Anyone? Whats the ECU IG Fuse for?
Cheers
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:09 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ECU and IGnition at a guess.

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