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Chris Smith
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Tasmania
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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:04 am, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey all,

Trying to remove my gas struts for a re-gas but have hit a problem.. Can't get off the strut on the font, passenger side.

It's done up extremely tight and the metal is just too soft, no matter how hard I seem to get a grip on it, it will slip and start to strip the nut.
To make things worse, my 12mm Spanner doesnt fit perfect and neither does the closest imperial spanner, so I'm forced to use a shifter.

Have already hit it with WD40 about 3 times.

I have been reccommended by a few people to use an oxy/blow torch, but as you can see from the pictures below, its extremely vlose to the paint (and the top one is pretty much inside the padding on the bonnet) so using a flame will damage my bonnet padding and my engine bay paint).

http://i54.tinypic.com/2ym66ih.png
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ykaujt.jpg

Sorry about bad pics, I will try and get some good ones tonight, these pictures were taken by the seller a few months ago. (Note: The pics are actually of the DRIVERS side, but its the same thing on the other side.. just reversed).
Chris Smith
TryHard
Tasmania
Soarer UZZ31 V8

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:11 am, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forgot to mention, the bolt is flush with the metal of the car, no way to get to the actual thread.
Tom Richards
TryHard
nsw
V8

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:39 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they are probally the same as the boot struts and have "locktight' applied at manufacture.

You need a good quality ring spanner that fits tightly. ask a mechanic to loosen it for you.

Using a shifter will totally #@ck it.
Chris Smith
TryHard
Tasmania
Soarer UZZ31 V8

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:48 am, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can't get a ring around it though.
One side is the metal, other side is the strut.

E: Have also tried a chisel and hammer.
E2: Funnily enough, I got the top drivers side one out with a shifter and not wiht the 12mm spanner.
Prashant Mohinda
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TT

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 11:43 am, by:  Prashant Mohinda (Symptom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow i forgot how much fun worn nuts are lol
Chris Smith
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Tasmania
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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 11:47 am, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would you like to share your experience with some advice??
Chris Smith
TryHard
Tasmania
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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 12:03 pm, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently I can just pop the strut off anyway?
Without undoing it from the car.
David Grima
DieHard
WA
1JZ-GTE TT

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 02:31 pm, by:  David Grima (Maltezr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tom Richards wrote on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:39 am:

they are probally the same as the boot struts and have "locktight' applied at manufacture.

You need a good quality ring spanner that fits tightly. ask a mechanic to loosen it for you.

Using a shifter will totally #@ck it.




Tom is spot on, I replaced the boot struts with new ones that I bought last year and they are extremely hard to get off cause of the loctite they put on from factory.....and I presume that the bonnet ones would be excactly the same..... indeed use "ONLY" a good quality ring spanner otherwise you will strip the crap out of it.
Chris Smith
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Tasmania
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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 02:41 pm, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well as I said, a ring wont get around it.

I currently have Kingchrome spanners and tools, I am told these are of high quality.

The boot ones were easy to get off for me, no troubles at all.
As was the bottom of the drivers side.
The rest is a different story.

Pictures are here: http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/smithter/V8%20and%20Bikes%20plus%20Soarer%20Gas%20Strut/
(Ignore the races and mrs, was in a rush back to work!)
Mike Bradberry
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Queensland
GS300

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 04:31 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry (Halflife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the worst comes to the worst, you could grab hold with vice grips and gradually move forward and backward until it loosens.
A good quality shifter is good as well because the area it holds is greater than the equivalent open ended spanner.
Rowan McMahon
TryHard
WA
GTT-L

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 04:31 pm, by:  Rowan McMahon (Mr_eps) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

god dammit STOP.

just...


..just STOP.

okAY???

jump on a computer. and google "gas strut" and "your city"

google will tell you gas strut reconditioners.

i got mine done like 2 weeks ago. drove my car there. a guy jumped in my boot and did it all for me while i watched him and drank fanta.

struts supplied fitted and exhanged with TOYOTA STRUTS

$66. in and out in 20 minutes.

DONT DO IT YOURSELF. you'll catch an aneyurism.
Chris Smith
TryHard
Tasmania
Soarer UZZ31 V8

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 05:15 pm, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol......

Yeah I have a guy coming around soon to do them.. But he said it was easier if I took them out first.

They are getting re-gassed.
Sebastian Grant
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nsw
soarer TT

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 06:28 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Upload

Pipe spanner.
Matt Newman
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soarer tt

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 06:32 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Sebastian Grant wrote on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 06:28 pm:




other wise known as flare nut spanners
Chris Smith
TryHard
Tasmania
Soarer UZZ31 V8

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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 09:57 pm, by:  Chris Smith (Smithter) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will look into buying some.

Maybe I'll just let the guy have a look :-)
Lynden Phillips
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ACT
Soarer UZZ31

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 05:04 am, by:  Lynden Phillips (Malicia) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the same problem with mine the other week, there was no O-ring to just pop them off. I had to soak the nut with WD40 multiple times before they would budge.

even went to the strut place and he couldn't get them off.

In the end it wasn't a strut problem anyway
Rowan McMahon
TryHard
WA
GTT-L

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 03:01 am, by:  Rowan McMahon (Mr_eps) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol. i am curious. HOW could it not be a strut problem???

boot. strut. lift.


what ELSE could go wrong???

dont tell me soarers have an ECU for the boot mechanism as well :p
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 07:38 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could be the spring popped off I guess?
Adam Lonergan
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Victoria
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 07:41 pm, by:  Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get another one off a wreck and have it regassed... Daniel Savage has enough cars to try a few until he gets one to come off without damage. Take a drill and use a 3 mm drill bit drill out the centre of the bolt on your car without damaging the thread... try to undo it... use a 3.5 mm drill bit... try to undo it...etc.
Matt Sartori
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Rx7

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 08:13 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When in doubt, use a hammer.

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