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Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R
Posts: 2185
Reg: 09-2007
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Bahahaahahahahahahaha*gasp*hahahahahahahahaahaha
Anyone want to break his heart?
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9675590 |
Warren Moore
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GTE swap
Posts: 880
Reg: 01-2010
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What's so funny? It was bought brand new in Australia. From memory only 8 were sold like this in Australia and yes, they did cost 110-120k.. |
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R
Posts: 2186
Reg: 09-2007
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Pretty sure EVERY Lexus is distinguished with a model code, and not a name, and certainly not both.
Also pretty sure all Lexus SC models were LHD with analogue dash and Lexus 'L' trimmed steering wheels, as well as inferior range of features to the Soarer.
Also pretty sure that no matter how many Lexus, L, or SC badges you put on it, unless its LHD it is a Soarer... as I'm quite certain many on here will concur with.
So, in summary, regardless of whether the lexus badges have been stuck on by an owner, or a Lexus/Toyota dealer, its still a Soarer
But its a nice way to try make a premium over what is ultimately a $10k car |
Warren Moore
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GTE swap
Posts: 881
Reg: 01-2010
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I remember reading somewhere that there were 8 Soarer's sold brand new in Australia. Not sure if they were Toyota Soarer's or Lexus SC's but if they were SC's, they would have to have been RHD to suit.
I didn't pick up on the steering wheel, maybe a replacement? But then the digital dash.. hmmm
Even so, it would be one of very few Soarer's with a genuine odometer and full history service.. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe
Posts: 5239
Reg: 11-2005
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Warren Moore wrote on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 11:46 pm: It was bought brand new in Australia. From memory only 8 were sold like this in Australia and yes, they did cost 110-120k..
It would have been sold as a Soarer though. A dealer has been sneaky and got hold of some Lexus SC400 badges and manuals to go with it. Pretty obvious when many options are not SC400 spec, and uhhhh firstly, it still has the Soarer Griffin on the steering wheel! Options wise, SC400s all had a powered radio antenna, looks like theres not one here. (Left side)
I am in full agreement with Tim above.
This was already talked about in another thread by the way.  Still can't get over the seller wants $16,500 AUD! Day light robbery. |
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.
Posts: 1261
Reg: 11-2007
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Pretty clean looking car. |
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R
Posts: 2188
Reg: 09-2007
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Care to link me to it Mike? |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 6109
Reg: 10-2005
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Yes, it might well have been a new import in 1994, but it would have been imported as a Toyota Soarer, not a "Lexus Soarer SC400" - no such beast except in some peoples minds. I guess its possible that the original dealer did the badge conversion back in 1994, either as a request or as a sneaky. |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8
Posts: 1437
Reg: 03-2007
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Yes it was imported as a Lexus sc400 ,it has a odd vin number ,it all true ,talked to the owner.
If you search back a few weeks on SC you will find the full write up. |
Warren Moore
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GTE swap
Posts: 885
Reg: 01-2010
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can someone actually link the thread this was talked about? because i have search for half an hour now and cant find anything.. |
Gary Poloskei
DieHard
A.C.T
Soarer JZZ30
Posts: 694
Reg: 01-2008
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well there you go! we learn something different every day....
I guess the compliance plate would say Lexus too..
Hmm a Genuine Lexus.
That would be worth something!
either way its neat as. and definitely worth 16k |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8
Posts: 1438
Reg: 03-2007
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ohhhhh i dont think its worth it ?? its pov pack . |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8
Posts: 1439
Reg: 03-2007
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Search..."is this dash from a v8" |
George Lu
TryHard
vic
v8
Posts: 468
Reg: 02-2006
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It's imported as SC400. But this is 100% a Toyota-soarer. Yes this is sold here 15 years ago. but for $16500 for a car with 200,000+km!!! I rather get a super nice late model for that kind of price. |
George Lu
TryHard
vic
v8
Posts: 469
Reg: 02-2006
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I must say, I like how he installed the LCDs into the headrest. Looks very factory. |
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R
Posts: 2189
Reg: 09-2007
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It may be worth an extra 6k(ish) but only to people who are in the market for a soarer (not many) who are a passionate collector (even fewer again).
Its not as if it is an Aus Delivered GTR which has a degree of desirability and history around it.
99.99999999999999% of people looking around for a soarer will not care about the fact that this one is 'Aus Delievered' when a $6k(ish) premium on the pricetag is concerned. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe
Posts: 5241
Reg: 11-2005
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If it was LHD and had all the AMERICAN Lexus options then it would be worth it. I'd love a real SC400!
But that is not the case. A Soarer with SC400 badges is a whole different ball game. |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30/UZZ31/JZS160
Posts: 1821
Reg: 07-2005
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It's a UZZ30. Very clean looking car, but find it very hard to believe it was brought into Australia as a Lexus.
First up are the rear seat head rests, "Lexus" ones are the pov-pack integrated type. Secondly in the 7th pic check out the steering column, all official Lexus imports (besides the ES300) had electric tilt/slide adjustment. Thirdly, in the 8th pic the rear view mirror is NOT electrochromatic, again standard on these cars even for a 92/93. Lastly, the gryphon on the airbag? You'd think that if it was an official import that Lexus would at the very least change the airbag cover to the appropriate Lexus for said $110k. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 6117
Reg: 10-2005
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I can't imagine up tight Toyota Japan production managers allowing a Toyota to go out the door as a Lexus - the internal logistics alone would be too much trouble for a mass produced car - guarantee it left the factory floor as a Toyota Soarer and someone added the badges at a later stage - before or after importing. |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30/UZZ31/JZS160
Posts: 1823
Reg: 07-2005
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I suppose so. Maybe brought in by Toyota Australia, but serviced by their local Lexus? hmm. |
Gary Poloskei
DieHard
A.C.T
Soarer JZZ30
Posts: 701
Reg: 01-2008
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Again it comes down to what the compliance plate says.... |
Shane Haverkamp
TryHard
nsw
soarer TT
Posts: 441
Reg: 10-2007
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i feel sorry for the poor sap that buys this thinking he's getting some awesome car under the guise its something awesome |
Glen Muller
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer - 'Z31 V8
Posts: 840
Reg: 12-2007
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Jose-Antonio Castillo wrote on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 09:10 am:Maybe brought in by Toyota Australia, but serviced by their local Lexus? hmm.
Wouldn't it have been a bit hard to find a local Lexus dealer in Australia in 1993? |
Ian Rigby
Tinkerer
NSW
AE102, JZZ30
Posts: 12
Reg: 11-2010
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Glen Muller wrote on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 07:26 am:Wouldn't it have been a bit hard to find a local Lexus dealer in Australia in 1993?
First Lexus dealership in Aus was opened in 1990... |
Ben Kelly
DieHard
Lakemba
v8
Posts: 918
Reg: 08-2005
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hold on, if i were loaded in 1994 and went down to the local lexus dealership and asked them to sell me a lhd sc400 you dont think they could have requested a rebadged soarer from factory? sounds legit to me. and 200k +kms? i know many people on the site are getting around in cars with odo reading 100k+ but seriously, that is even more dubious a claim. |
Steven Anderson
DieHard
NSW
UZZ31 Manual
Posts: 564
Reg: 05-2006
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You cant just go and make one off specials from a and automated production line, these arent hand built maybachs/rolls etc.
Someone, somewhere swapped the badges off a soarer. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 6166
Reg: 10-2005
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Exactly - a computer controlled production line, with computerised accounting and logistics behind it, would not be interrupted so they could make one car with a different chassis plate than every other car, tens of thousands, coming off the line.
Toyota just aren't in that business - if its not on the options list, then you have to do it yourself. |
Vincent Chan
Tinkerer
nsw
v8
Posts: 8
Reg: 12-2010
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I think the original owner imported a brand new Toyota Soarer rebadged as a Lexus. His log book and manuals are exactly the same as mine.
Mine was a second hand Toyota Soarer rebadged and imported as a Lexus. The compliance plate in the engine compartment say it is a Toyota but all the badges and books are Lexus. Even the service book had been stamped by Lexus in Australia. |
George Lu
TryHard
vic
v8
Posts: 488
Reg: 02-2006
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The fact is, it's a Toyota Soarer. regardless if it's rebadged or not, it's always going to be a Soarer. Even when it's 1st sold in Australia as a Lexus, it's still a Soarer. Mr Toyota never made a RHD Lexus sc400. The manuals the seller has in hand it's for a LHD sc400 which will not have the EMV and it's different from the original Jap version. |
Jerzy Stopczynski
TryHard
Westarn Australia
jzz20
Posts: 278
Reg: 12-2006
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in either case..
who gives a toss..
if you are going to buy it, tell him he's wrong.. im sure he will argue about it till the cows come home..
if not, why care...
maybe its overpriced... so he wont sell it for that price... maybe its not...maybe he'll find some sucker that is stupid enough to think that Lexus badges make any difference what so ever.. and that for some reason a lexus is different to a toyota..
if so good on him, happy buyer, happy seller...
Stomps |
Chris Prak
DieHard
WA
JZZ30 Soarer - Twin Snails
Posts: 925
Reg: 12-2006
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My car, it's a Lexus SC400. But someone put Toyota Soarer badges on it. Got me self a gem mate!
Pics of build plate will tell all. |
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