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Henry Kamstra
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 12:23 pm, by:  Henry Kamstra (Henry) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although I love my V8 and am thinking about buying a particular 2.5 litre if it comes on the market, I can't help but eye off the FT-86 which may be marketed here in 2012. (Possibly priced from 35k according to an article in todays Herald-Sun) Will the FT-86 erode our affection for the Soarer?
Matchy Loi
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 12:49 pm, by:  Matchy Loi (Ftk148) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would consider it, but one of my worries is where the engine will be mounted, Subaru's generally have the engine mounted well in front of the wheels.
Ali Saeed
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 12:56 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

definitely buying one in 2013, so no one else get it please i want to be the only one!
Scott Vim
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 03:28 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One mean looking car with an pissy little engine in it.
Ali Saeed
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 04:35 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its a boxer engine, wont exactly be "pissy" lol. plus subaru is ment to have a turbo version and scion in the us might also have a turbo one. no news on if toyota will have a turbo one or not.
Henry Kamstra
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 04:47 pm, by:  Henry Kamstra (Henry) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re FT-86 engine size - Could this turn out to be one of these scenarios where the 1st model comes with a small engine and they upgrade by a couple of 100 cc for each model which follows? I bought a new early model Tarago with 1800cc many years ago. Then they went to 2 ltr then 2200 cc and I think they finished at 2400cc. Wouldn't that be disappointing for one of these?
Ali Saeed
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 05:07 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they dont go up in engine sizes anymore. only down :-(
Matt Sartori
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 05:58 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I find it extremely confusing. They barely make any RWD performance cars any more, and yet on so many forums people are bagging the FT-86 out.

What the hell is wrong with people.
Ali Saeed
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 09:34 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

people want excels.
Spencer Cameron
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Friday, May 27, 2011 - 10:17 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toyota is capitalising on their partnership with Subaru and the development of a new mid sized sports car platform to renew a badge that made them money in the past.

The whole thing is a massive compromise from the get-go and on top of that, everybody wants something different from it.

86's gained their popularity by being cheap but disproportionably capable thrash boxs. How do you sell brand new cars to ppl under that concept?
Boris Siljanoski
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 01:52 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Toyota would have went far with continuing with the Supra look, something like the LFA but styled to look less like a transformer and more of a car.
Ali Saeed
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 03:57 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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pretty similar, but then again all coupes looks pretty similar side on.
Scott Casey
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 07:09 am, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

was built to replace the celica in the original designs not the supra

as soon as someone will buy the car they will have to replace the "fine china" pistons, "pumice" style gaskets, "rubber band" belts, "super ruff" exhaust note.

$6K factory option replace the engine with a vvti 3sgte

http://i45.tinypic.com/c1cow.jpg
Dave Rose
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wa
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 10:12 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Glad they forgot this one
Scott Vim
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 12:52 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bring out a turbo model and then I'll consider it a return to their old. They don't make cars like gt4 3s-gte anymore and I don't think this will get there either. I'm a Toyota nut believe me I've only ever owned Toyotas etc etc. BUT I wouldn't buy a brand new Toyota. The Aurion doesn't impress me, even the TRD supercharged FWD. WTF. If they were RWD or AWD with manual box I'd probably already own one.
Rowan McMahon
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 04:40 pm, by:  Rowan McMahon (Mr_eps) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you guys are so gung ho about being toyota purists then why won't you guys accept that toyota know what they're doing with this project.


toyota are willing to admit that "hey this isn't really our thing any more" so they're leaving it to the best in the biz to lay the ground work for them..

Subaru are supplying the base model of the motor. and Yamaha are tuning the absolute sh1t out of the head.

why would you say it's a pissy little engine? asl a SSS Pulsar owner how they feel about their cars.. and they'll be quick to tell you that the SR20de IS a pissy engine.. but in their light little cars makes for an exciting drive.

same with AE111 trueno owners..

imagine that layout - with yamahas head technology and their throttle response and their balls out torque capabilities...
imagine that heart in a RWD platform.

this will be like the nissan 180sx except it won't suck. and it won't need to rely on a turbo to make it's power.

i also don't understand why everyone is crying about there being no turbo...
the AE86 never had a turbo. so why should this?

the AE86 used 20v setups. independent throttle bodies and bored out cylinders and motorbike carbs and all sorts of oldschool mods to make their power.


as for "will it replace my love for soarer"

no.. not for me. but i have a big heart and am willing to let another into my wolfpack. =)
Matt Sartori
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Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 08:31 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never thought i'd say it, but +1 to rowan

Not everything needs a turbo and a bazillion RWHP to make it fun, if its light and nimble a revvy N\A is plenty, and since this is being based on the AE86, only good things can come from it.

Turbo is cool...but i'd take a light/nimble car with a ported 12a with a weber or a 4age 20v with quad throttles over a heavy turbo car any day.
Scott Casey
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Monday, May 30, 2011 - 06:53 am, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2ltr na subaru engine just over 100kw

im not excited, subaru has gone grandpa in the last few years and are not going to change anytime soon with their sales pitch through their dealers.

cruze 1.4 turbo petrol does beat it.
Rowan McMahon
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Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 12:57 am, by:  Rowan McMahon (Mr_eps) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott... did you not read anything at all ever ever?


...ever?? haha

subaru are not making the engine, they're providing the basis for the engine in NA format... and Yamaha and Toyota are tuning it.

if a 2 litre 4 banger that revs out to 11,000rpm doesn't excite you then...



...then...


...then i'm sorry. but.. we just can't be friends anymore.. :p


and Matt - you realise that once you start agreeing with me... you die a little inside. feel that pain in your chest??? yeah. that's what happens when you agree with me.. :p
Trevor Francic
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Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 07:53 am, by:  Trevor Francic (Trevov) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would have one

if ppl think about it if you don't like the engine because it's not turbo then put a turbo on it or swap a turbo engine into it but just remember as fuel prices go up the turbo market will die and only be left to the 4x4 and trucks
Scott Vim
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Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 02:35 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ft-86 should be a turbo diesel then. If you want economy get a hyundai or just all together forget about petrol cars.
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 03:40 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Drove a 2.0 boxer turbo diesel the other day. If that motor was in something lighter, like this FT, it would make for nimble fun and 5-6L/100km.
Rowan McMahon
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Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 05:58 pm, by:  Rowan McMahon (Mr_eps) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...you know what i reckon would be an interesting showdown???


FT86 vs Honda CRZ

new entry level petrol sports car
vs
new entry level HYBRID sports car..


would be interesting!!
Ali Saeed
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WA
UZZ31

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Monday, October 31, 2011 - 10:50 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dont know if people know about this, but ill leave some links for you guys. personally i think it looks insane.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2054
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2075
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2062
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2085
Ali Saeed
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UZZ31

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Monday, October 31, 2011 - 11:13 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1210-1250kg, 147kw(7000rpm), 205nm(6600). gonna be sick
Glen Muller
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 08:27 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Me wanty one!
Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 06:31 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wait, this car is not available to the public yet but it has its own forum and fans?

How about waiting to see if its actually any good first?

The world is a strange, strange place.
Evan Kaio
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 03:57 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Subaru's next offer.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/5895472/Wraps-off-Subaru-BRZ-sports-concept's next offer.
Glen Muller
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 09:18 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Subaru's version will probably go like stink, but you'll pay a fortune and get tacky fabrics and hard plastics as a compromise!
Ali Saeed
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UZZ31

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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 12:57 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glen it will be exactly the same engine. how much could they get out of it by just changing the maps? 10-20hp?

oh and TRD FT revealed:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2119

hopefully they offer a nice little supercharger for it somewhere down the line. 300rwhp will mean itll flog a Lotus Evora S
Glen Muller
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 08:23 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ali Saeed wrote on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 12:57 am:

hopefully they offer a nice little supercharger for it somewhere down the line




If not, it's easily rectified.

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