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Tom Richards
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 03:03 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my son drove his car for ages with the error message on the dash and the pump running continously due to no pressure in the accumulator.

The brakes worked "normally". From what i have read and how the brakes worked on my sons car, I believe the accumulator is only for TRC/ABS, and not normal breaking.(maybe the pump still has an effect without pressure in the accumulator?)

i ask this question because i believe i can get rid of the error message, and also stop the pump running with a couple of "by passes"

bypass 1 , remove the error message
bypass 2 , stop the pump operating

what are your thoughts?
Dan McColl
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 09:10 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The accumulator/pump is the brake booster, as well as operating with the TRC.

The brakes WILL NOT work without it. (ever tried to brake a normal car without the engine running?? TRC soarer is the same without the pump operating).

The running pump should have provided enough pressure to provide the booster assistance that brakes need.

Get an accumulator from soarerparts.com and fix it properly.
Tom Richards
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 06:11 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its already fixed with a replacement assy.

i have been able to work out the switching after removing the old unit.

on non TRC cars, there is just a master cylinder with no booster??
Dave Rose
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 10:06 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

servo is the booster.
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:17 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All disk brakes need a booster of sorts to apply enough pressure to the brakes for them to work.

As Dave said, non-TRC systems use a standard vacuum assisted booster.
Tom Richards
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:31 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

looks like you can only get rid of the error message, and must leave the pump running.

better than nothing i suppose.

(may be a cheap fix, replace the unit with a non TRC master cylinder, leave the loom in and do the by passes.)

As said earlier i have fixed my sons car and have just been "playing" around for a solution to a "common problem" (I have pulled the old accumulator apart, put new seals in and fitted an aircon valve to the top. i will look at getting it pressurized and see if it holds to keep as a spare)
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:39 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just buy a brand new one. Brakes aren't just putting your life at risk, but also the other people that your car hits when the brakes don't work properly.

Not really a good thing to risk.
Tom Richards
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:49 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my car does not have TRC.

I fixed my sons TRC by replacing the complete master cylinder assy.

As i have said, i am just "playing" around with how it all works.

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