Soarer Central: Archive through January 13, 2006

Soarer Central General Soarer Chat Some nice modified V8's Archive through January 13, 2006

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Avin Luther
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Soarer uzz31 Limited

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 08:09 pm, by: Avin Luther (Lex_luther)

yeah, maybe! christmas present perhaps
see how the new job goes this year!

Steve Trace
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Vic
uzz31

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 01:47 am, by: Steve Trace (Clawz)

mmmm I will say i like all of those cars, but I can't help but think when I look at the aussie cars, TAXI's! The interior n such, still given for free I would love them!! Then sell them and get a nice active and put a blower on it, and possibly an man gear box, mmmm so tasty!!

Matthew Sharpe
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3.0 GT

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 09:17 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Funny how picky you get when you own a Soarer. I was travelling as a back seat passenger recently in a new Falcon (no, not a taxi, but a company car

) and noticed how much exposed metal I could see inside the cabin area. No exposed metal in the Soarer.

Callum Finch
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Soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:29 am, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

One of the things that the Soarer won me over for was its interior and exterior styling.

In my opinion, _NO_ aussie built cars come close to the quality or streamlined design of the Soarer. That goes for not only all the silly Fords, Holdens, but also alot of the crazy "luxury" cars, which are really just buckets with some leather seats.. "OMG IT HAS LEATHER! IT MUST BE LUXURIOUS!"

You also have to think about the time period in which cars are produced in as well. Before the internet turned all big corporations into even bigger money hungry hawks, companies cared alot more about their image and the products they produce.

Perfect example of this is the Soarer. Built well, built shell.

You look at the cars that are being squeezed out these days and its just car companies either cutting corners to push out a lower quality luxury/performance car (either catagory will be missing something) so that more people will buy them, or overhyping their cars incredibly to gain the market's interest which leads to big let downs.
Of course, there will be exceptions to the rant, but talking generally it fits pretty well..

Also, utes are ugly >.>
..and i dont care what anyone says, that has got to be the most god awful Ferrari's ever. Yeughk.

Cristian Gruber
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VIC
UZZ31 SC400

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 09:57 pm, by: Cristian Gruber (Cgru2)

Callum: Im sorry but for your statement regarding the Ferrari, you have to be laughed at.

You do realise that car has a 3.5L V8 engine with 280KW stock and 8500rpm redline, all on only 1350kg of car.
It handles x times better than any Soarer and will leave any Soarer for dead in a simple drag race.

It has a name that is well known everywhere in the world (not like Soarers).
Not to also mention the above car has two massive turbos attached to it's engine.

Your attitude (and other's on these forums) is the typical attitude of people that know they will never afford to own such cars, so they decide to argue against them.

Callum Finch
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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 11:30 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

I didnt mean to call in to question the cars performance vs another, i just think the styling on it was something Enzo might have passed after a heavy night of drinking and a bad kebab.

But like i said, my opinion =P Everyone is entitled to theirs!

Dont get me wrong, i wouldnt mind wrapping my hands around an F40, Testarossa, 348.. but a 355 soft top? Beurk.

Ill agree with Robert re: which car to pick though, the Monaro is quite a triumph from an Aussie car manufacturer and goes against the typical grain.

Cristian Gruber
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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 11:33 pm, by: Cristian Gruber (Cgru2)

Robert: By "Any Soarer" I mean "Any stock Soarer". My apologies

"You do realise that car has a 3.5L V8 engine with 280KW stock and 8500rpm redline, all on only 1350kg of car."

My above arguments were for a stock Ferrari F355 Spider.

Also I believe this is a open forum and I never offended any Soarer, or named any names. If I have ,I didnt intend to and I'm sorry. I have simply stated the true facts!

And just one thing, I'm sure most of the people here can afford a Ford or a Holden, but I was referring to a Ferrari (and exotics in general).

I love Soarers and any nice modified car in general, so I just tried to share my enthusiasm with you as well.

Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 10:18 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a Ferrari (or want to?) but if I wanted a Monaro I could. I just find them unbelevibely bland and common as muck - plus all the money I'd lose on it. At least with the Soarer I get people coming up to me and asking me about it.

Matthew Tai
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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:32 pm, by: Matthew Tai (Matttai)

Some things that i think people tend to overlook about japanese cars is their manufacturers must abide by certain rules and agreements.
There is also especially a tendency for quality and especially efficiency in their top marques.
European exotics tend to push out massive horsepower at the expense of fuel efficiency and durability (Ferrari Enzo's clutch only lasts for 3 full standing starts). Given that supercars are basically just road going race cars (and are priced to match) its not exactly a fair comparison for a Soarer.
The closest supercar comparison from Japan for now would probably still be the NSX, which is still a V6, limited by 260kw gentlemans agreement and priced at <$150k.
I'm sure if Toyota/Lexus was to build a full fledged supercar they could make some good competition for Ferrari especially given that Toyota has extensive F1 experience/tech on hand.
Now that the 260kw gentlemans agreement has officially gone out the window as well i think in the coming years we can expect some great supercars coming from the east. (Think replacement NSX, Supra, GTR, Lexus LF Concept which are all said to be due for production soon).
A good indication of this is the new V8 in the LS460.
Although alot of the mass produced Euro marques (Audi / VW) have recently been doing some impressive technical work too. They seem to be going in the same direction as Japanese (smaller displacement + turbo + remarkably powerful diesel tech) making for good power and fuel efficiency.
Not aiming at anyone just wanted to put my thoughts down.

Anyway regardless of all that besides all the sensible stuff sometimes there is just something that draws a person to a car. I think its just the monster feel of the Monaro GTO that still makes it good in my books

The Monaro was not made to be luxurious nor would i wan't it to be. Its a BRUTE and thats how it should stay!

Simon Triantafillou
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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 01:00 pm, by: Simon Triantafillou (Soarer)

The "gentlemans agreement" was 206kW, not 260

We'd have seen a lot more super-car style vehicles out of Japan if that was the old "limit".

David Vaughan
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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 01:19 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

Not me, Matthew. Never liked any of that lot, nor the Monaro now. I do think the Monaro is a pretty good rendition of that style of car though.

Grant Gablish
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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 02:05 pm, by: Grant Gablish (Gabbo)

The Monaro would be a great weapon to drive to the snow. 300kw at all 4 wheels on snow/ice with road tires would make for some "interesting" driving.

BTW,I think the Monaro only got the go ahead due to the popularity of the Soarer at the time. There just wasn't a front engine/rwd/V8 coupe available in aus at the time, unless you wanted to spend $100k plus. I reckon the bean counters thought if people were prepared to part with $60k(approx) on a second hand soarer, why not a 2 door Commondore, especially after the reception it received at the Sydney Motor Show. (IMHO of course

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Matthew Tai
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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 02:44 pm, by: Matthew Tai (Matttai)

Ah yes 206kw my bad

the TT soarer is a prime example of that

David - I never liked the muscle car look initially either myself but somehow as of late its grown on me for some reason.

Grant - The Monaro is currently American drift weapon of choice

interestingly enough the R Millen drift team that uses the GTO in Drift Grand Prix also deals with Toyota/Lexus tuning

Brenton Trafford
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SA
V8 Limited

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 02:56 pm, by: Brenton Trafford (Traff)

Shelby....... droool.......

Avin Luther
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Friday, January 13, 2006 - 01:00 am, by: Avin Luther (Lex_luther)

I am starting to find a slight interest in old american muscle! I must be getting old!

Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:06 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Love the look, dislike the handling and the primitive engineering

Luke Nieuwhof
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Soarer TT

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Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:17 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Grant Gablish wrote on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 02:05 pm:
BTW,I think the Monaro only got the go ahead due to the popularity of the Soarer at the time. There just wasn't a front engine/rwd/V8 coupe available in aus at the time, unless you wanted to spend $100k plus. I reckon the bean counters thought if people were prepared to part with $60k(approx) on a second hand soarer, why not a 2 door Commondore, especially after the reception it received at the Sydney Motor Show. (IMHO of course)

I think that's a bit of a push. The world doesn't revolve around Soarers as much as we think it does. Monaro is really just a two door Commodore.

Callum Finch
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Friday, January 13, 2006 - 11:01 am, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

Matthew Tai wrote on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:32 pm:
ome things that i think people tend to overlook about japanese cars is their manufacturers must abide by certain rules and agreements.
There is also especially a tendency for quality and especially efficiency in their top marques.
European exotics tend to push out massive horsepower at the expense of fuel efficiency and d.... etc