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David Eberhart
TryHard
Q.L.D.
V8

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Monday, May 12, 2014 - 05:26 pm, by:  David Eberhart (Orphan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys,

My UZZ31 has been sitting in the garage for a little over 12 months and I finally got off my ass and finished everything up and it is ready to be turned over. I remember it only having 5-10L of fuel in it when I originally took it off the road and I didn't think to empty the tank or anything at the time as I was only planning on having it off the road for a couple months. I put a few litres of fresh fuel in before I thought about the old fuel and the gauge is currently showing 1/4 tank but who knows how accurate that is at this point. It won't give me a fuel level reading when I press the fuel button as the car is not running

What is good practice regarding old fuel? I have some fresh fuel ready to go but I wasn't sure if I needed to drain the tank or do anything else before filling it up and turning it over. I thought I'd ask before potentially causing myself some easily avoided problems. If I do need to drain the tank how do I do that? It could be an issue as the air sus has let down enough I can't get my jack (non low profile) under it. If draining is required can the tank be removed without being able to get under the car? From the boot it looks like it is held in by 4 large bolts but I have no idea if there is anything on the other side or underside of the car.

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Matthew Salkeld
TryHard
South Australia
1JZ powered 180sx

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Monday, May 12, 2014 - 05:57 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should be fine, soarer tank is pretty well sealed... Consider being gentle with it and topping up with fresh fuel. If you can't start it or it runs like ass even once warmed up, then it's time to dump the fuel. It also means your fuel tank vent system is toast. :-)
Robert Day
DieHard
victoria
v8 & TT

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Monday, May 12, 2014 - 08:13 pm, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As mentioned it should be fine, if you want to take off the fuel filler cap & have a bit of a sniff inside & if it smells off sort of like cats piss, top up straight away, otherwise no dramas & at worst as has been said it Might be hard to start but unlikely ..
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 / ML320 CDI

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Monday, May 12, 2014 - 11:33 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

12 month old fuel will not start a car!
Robert Day
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victoria
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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 12:24 am, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have started quite a few cars now that had fuel that Was at least 12 months old & one a while back now that was years old !! & it stunk too & it still started, so 12 months old should be fine ..
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 07:44 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you were lucky Robert ,when we were importing Soarers /Skylines that had been in the JP auctions for months then put on a boat after sitting on the docks for months, they were so hard to fire up .
Allan Langford
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Vic
UZZ31

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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 09:07 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

had a car sitting 4-5 years started fine... all depends on the fuel and condition of the rest of the fuel system
David Eberhart
TryHard
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V8

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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 10:49 am, by:  David Eberhart (Orphan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tried it this morning. Started without any effort. I just let it idle and warm up to chew through the old fuel and I will top it up with fresh fuel before driving it or giving it any revs.

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Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 12:07 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Must be the Jap petrol
Shane Haverkamp
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 04:48 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good to hear its sorted...

i could understand years ago when carbies where still dominant that leaving fuel for a while would affect its starting. two strokes are apparently the same

but modern cars will just dump as much fuel in there as necessary to get it started. if worse comes to worse just pour a few litres of the high octane stuff in there
Robert Day
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victoria
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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 07:44 pm, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Dave, maybe those Soarers & Skylines from the Jap Auction's could have been partially flooded ?? lots of Cold start up's without ever warming up properly & so still on fuel enrichment mode, I have seen it happen on quite a few cars over the years, a common case is when people start up their car back it out of the garage to wash it etc & then start the car up to just drive back in & just turn it off & then they go to start it the next day & its flooded & wont start ..
Matthew Salkeld
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Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 08:16 pm, by:  Matthew Salkeld (Munkymatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

fuel lasts quite a long time in a sealed environment... mostly fuel goes off when the tank is open to atmosphere. Also, the rate of fuel fouling has nothing to do with octane rating; 91 will not be harder to start after sitting than 98.

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