Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:11 pm, by: Tyler Durden(Tylerd)
I've been reading a lot of APS's product reviews and have noticed quite a few times they mention "100% street legal" and "Complies with EPA requirements" in regards to engine work and them talking about controlling it with a Unichip.
Now, I've also been looking into the EPA guidelines and laws, and they state, that any ECU mod or management system being replacement or piggy back isn't legal in Victoria engineered or not.
I've spoken to APS about this directly and they couldn't / wouldn't (wouldn't being more accurate) give me a straight answer. I've been told if my car is inspected by the EPA and they find any kind of ECU mod, that I'll fail on the spot and be hit with a large fine too.
I've noticed a lot of members here run a Unichip system on their cars and I know you guys will be able to help.
I'd hate to spend $1200 for something they advertise as being legal when it's not. Can anyone shed any light.
Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:41 pm, by: Rob Andreacchio(Reepa)
When I spoke to the EPA about 18 months ago they confirmed what you have mentioned above. Any modification to the ECU is an instant canary, same as 2 or more mods to the air intake system.
Although, they couldnt give me a reason as to why, just simply that "it's the law"....
Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:09 am, by: Benjamin Burgess(Jampac)
I think what you'll find they do is fax details of a standard kit they sell to the epa with details of the emissions test that was done on the test car. I would assume this only applies to the kits they sell. If however the unichip was tuned on a vehicle that has no kit or the setup is completely different then well, your up the creek as they say.
However being in sydney I have never been epa tested myself, barely ever see the epa guys around at all, and doubt if they could even find the standard ecu let alone a piggy back or aftermarket computer. But nsw seems to be a lot less nazi than victoria when it comes to car mods.
Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 05:30 pm, by: Gary Morriss(Gaza)
Same as boost controlers , turbo timers, anything to do with changing your AF mixture. And there all just Advertised,none of them would commit on paper ie: Magazines ,that there Equipment was street legal,would be to much come back i reckon if you get done by the Cops or EPA!
Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 06:12 pm, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
The ACCC would not agree with you, Ben, Morgan or whoever. Your State consumer organisation might be willing to get a little bit upset but the ACCC has more important work to do. Even against your local consumer advocate, the company will survive easily by pointing out that it is legal in other States in Australia and they were advertising to that market either when they read the medium in which the advertisement was published or when they visited Victoria and read it there. It is not interesting.
Even if it were not legal to use, there is still no specific law against advertising it, as I described in my earlier post.
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