Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 12:51 pm, by: Dragan Vidic(Soarer_ttt)
You can ether have a filter or cooler, no BOV unless its plugged back into the intake, cant be lower then 100mm with a full carload, can have 18inch rims no wider then 7.5inch...tires dont matter....no engine management systems of any kind, no boost controllers, no bigger turbo/s, nothing on the dash that would be blocking your view of the outside.....in other words modifying and keeping it legal just isnt possible unless you got a lot of cash
Damian Ware wrote on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 05:13 pm:
Why is this the case as the fuel mixture is leaned making the car more fuel efficient?
Lets say you got a lot of mods and you're making 280rwkw, with fuel mixtures of 12:1 compare to 10:1 when it was stock....dont you thing that you'd be using wayyy more fuel now than you were back then, even tho the ratios look a lot better in our opinion...i mean the 650cc injectors arent there for no reason....not to mention other bull$hit reasons they might have
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 01:14 pm, by: Andrew Ferres(Peewee)
Dragan, please don't spout things you have heard.
Wheel laws have changed. You are now allowed a tyres 30% wider than the widest factory tyre. Rim height no longer matters, as long as your over all height is no more than 15mm higher than the tallest factory tyre, and no less than 10mm shorter than the shortest factory. Rim width is based on tyre width.
ie, factory widest tyre is 205mm, therefore 30% wider is 266.5mm or a 265. The widest rim you can run on a 265 tyre is 10" wide.
Programable ecu's are perfectly legal, providing they are locked, and have been proven to pass current emission laws, and are signed off by an engineer.
I remember someone saying that external venting BOVs are legal on MAP sensored cars, but not on MAF sensored cars, but that could be a rumour.
At the end of the day, call someone. Rumours spread, chinese whispers happens, and things get distorted. Engineers who sign off on things will tell you what they are happy to sign off on.
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 02:28 pm, by: Dragan Vidic(Soarer_ttt)
Everything i said was info i got from a VICROADS engineer when my car was defected, so if he was spouting things then so am I
Andrew Ferres wrote on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 01:14 pm:
Programable ecu's are perfectly legal, providing they are locked, and have been proven to pass current emission laws, and are signed off by an engineer.
Like i said
Dragan Vidic wrote on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 12:51 pm:
in other words modifying and keeping it legal just isnt possible unless you got a lot of cash
Because if you're going to engineer every single mod u might as well buy a ferrari and not worry about doing it up
Have been ringing up lately regarding a engine conversion and the prices are around the $1000 mark not to mention the brake/suspention upgrade needed according to them to pass it. Now unless these people are telling me $hit, thats how it is.
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 02:38 pm, by: Dragan Vidic(Soarer_ttt)
Oh and one more thing an engineer from both the EPA and vicroads told me was that if i was to import a 2jz i would need to pay $2800 to get it tested to see if it passes the current emission laws, even tho its no different to a 2jz in every supra you see driving around. Go figure that one out.
Dragan Vidic wrote on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 02:38 pm:
Oh and one more thing an engineer from both the EPA and vicroads told me was that if i was to import a 2jz i would need to pay $2800 to get it tested to see if it passes the current emission laws, even tho its no different to a 2jz in every supra you see driving around. Go figure that one out.
What the??? Can't be true, otherwise you wouldn't be able to get an imported half cut at the prices they are on at the moment.
Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 03:01 pm, by: Andrew Ferres(Peewee)
Emissions tests are a weird one hey.
Vic charges $2800 as you said. WA charges about the same, yet its not enforced yet. As long as you have a catalytic converter, and o2 sensor, and a charcoal canister you'll pass. But NSW its free, or something like $25.
Also, I HIGHLY recommend ringing several engineers and get each ones opinion. Some will require a brake upgrade, some will just need to do a brake test to confirm the stock brakes are fine.
The price they charge can vary WILDLY. Also their knowledge of the current laws/regulations may also differ. Some may not know that the laws have changed. Those 2 links I showed above only happened about 6 months ago, and there are A LOT of changes compared to before.
My engineer charges me $120 for each FULL inspection, usually only need one full, and a couple of $60 small ones, depending on how much you see them. From memory it was about $270ish for the brake test and report. And a further $150 for the full report.
Total cost was about $550 in the end I think. And that includes every mod I've done on the car.
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