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Benjamin Burgess
TryHard
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:55 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Gas motorsport camry was at it again on saturday at WSID. It ran a 7.299 on the weekend, wheelspinning the whole track. It'll do 6's very soon. I'll try and get some more details for trap speed and 60ft.

If you've been living under a rock, this is a 2jz-gte powered lexcen (it looks like a holden commodore vn, but its offically a lexcen as per the build plates) chassis and part of the body, with a new shape camry fibreglass front and rear end.
Nick Petkovic
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 Limited

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 01:07 pm, by:  Nick Petkovic (Naissus96) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't picture this car in my head. VN Commodore with Camry parts??? Can you post some pics?
Benjamin Burgess
TryHard
NSW
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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 01:47 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is pics on fullboost of it running at heathcote. I'll try and post them tonight.

The trap speed is about 180 miles/hour and its still running low boost for the 7.299 run. They have to sort out the traction first before they can run the engine at full power.
Dragan Vidic
TryHard
Vic
soarer tt

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 02:44 pm, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Benjamin Burgess wrote on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:55 pm:

It'll do 6's very soon




We'll have to see what the big V8 boys have to say then about rice burners and turbos.
Ian Johnston
DieHard
South Australia
UZZ30 GT 4.0

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 07:45 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont see any Turbo sixes running in Top Fuel.
Emanuel Spinola
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NSW
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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 07:53 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola (Manny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or any 1UZs....
Don Bagnall
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New Zealand
I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 07:55 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sad, but true
Benjamin Burgess
TryHard
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 08:04 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These are old pictures of when it did its first run at heathcote. I watched it being built, but haven't seen it since it was first fired (Meanest 2jz I've ever heard) just before going to heathcote.


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And last I checked Joe wouldn't let me take pics of it. These pics were not even suppose to be printed as fullboost was told no photos.
Luke Nieuwhof
DieHard
WA
Soarer TT

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 08:17 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its had quite an outing at Sydney now once or twice I think so there are many pictures around.

Damn secret squirrel drag racers! It will all be out eventually anyway.
Emanuel Spinola
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NSW
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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 08:28 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola (Manny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/289/33825.html#POST52839
Benjamin Burgess
TryHard
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 09:37 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep that's the engine, but it looks a little different with everything needed for 6 seconds :-)
Graham Dollisson
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I have more Leylands than Don

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Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 09:06 am, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's not a hell of a lot of Camry left in that!!
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
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Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:06 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd like to see a TT boosted to 20 psi keep up with a 1UZ boosted to 20 psi.

There is no substitute for cubes!
Emanuel Spinola
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NSW
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Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:28 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola (Manny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dan McColl wrote on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:06 pm:

I'd like to see a TT boosted to 20 psi keep up with a 1UZ boosted to 20 psi.

There is no substitute for cubes!



Boost your 1UZ to 20psi and I'll gladly go for a run against you - track or drags?

We have an excellent substitute for cubes - modern technology, superior metallurgy, Toyota reliability and over-engineering.... and most importantly, boost already on tap
:-)
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

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Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 09:39 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would love to see a 1UZ boosted to 20psi.

Where is it?

Oh, there it is.... it's in that big pipe dream that just floated out of everyone's VERY deep pockets!

One day, but today is not that day!

The BIG surprise will be when people see who the owner of that vehicle will be.

Note the use of the words when, will & be
Damian Ware
Tinkerer
Victoria
Camry

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Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 10:07 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are many used in the states, common for a hill climbing event.

I have heard that one engine was pushing out 2000Hp.
Jeff Harper
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NSW
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Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 11:01 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In a Soarer?
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
North Island
3.0 GT

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Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:02 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think you'd ever see that in a Soarer.

Emanuel Spinola wrote on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:28 pm:

We have an excellent substitute for cubes - modern technology, superior metallurgy, Toyota reliability and over-engineering.... and most importantly, boost already on tap




Huh? The 1UZ is also a Toyota engine, and from a metallurgy and from the technology and engineering stand point, at LEAST on par with the 1JZ. Toyota spent a lot more time and money developing the 1UZ. Of course getting 20psi on a 1UZ would be a bank breaking project, so we're never likely to see it in a Soarer.
Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:07 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plus the 1UZ crank bearings don't walk out.
Nick Petkovic
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 Limited

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Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 12:21 pm, by:  Nick Petkovic (Naissus96) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So people call this a Camry just because someone painted (or maybe those are stickers) Camry lights on the front and back of a commodore?? It's a fast car no doubt, but it's just plain ugly and you can't drive it on the street. What's the point?
Emanuel Spinola
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NSW
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Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:09 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola (Manny) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:02 am:

Huh? The 1UZ is also a Toyota engine, and from a metallurgy and from the technology and engineering stand point, at LEAST on par with the 1JZ. Toyota spent a lot more time and money developing the 1UZ. Of course getting 20psi on a 1UZ would be a bank breaking project, so we're never likely to see it in a Soarer.



The 1UZ is also a design generation behind the JZ engines. The alloy block is it's achilles heel - boost it high and watch it split it's guts as many drag racers have found out. Ever wondered why it's got a 4 bolt mains and cross bolts or why Toyota released the cast iron 2UZ for stressed/commercial/offroad applications?
Build a daily driven twin turbo 1UZ Soarer boosted to 20psi daily and prove me wrong. :-)


Peter Nitschke wrote on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:07 am:

Plus the 1UZ crank bearings don't walk out.



Either do 99% of JZ engines that are adequately maintained - what's your point?
Same as JZ engines don't overheat and melt down as readily as 1UZ's alloy blocks do when their owners neglect the cooling system - but what's that got to do with design?
Luke Nieuwhof
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WA
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Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:18 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Nick Petkovic wrote on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 12:21 pm:

So people call this a Camry just because someone painted (or maybe those are stickers) Camry lights on the front and back of a commodore?? It's a fast car no doubt, but it's just plain ugly and you can't drive it on the street. What's the point?



*Shakes head* It's so it's legal for the Pro RWD class in Sport Compact racing.

As for the can't drive it on the street comment that's stupid, of course you can't IT'S A DRAG CAR. You can't drive a sprintcar on the street, or a V8 Supercar or a jet boat. These things are designed for going in a straight line incredibly fast so at least try to show a little respect for what they do.

And you have no idea what acceleration is until you have been inside a six second car.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 08:40 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PFft, i love driving MY Jet Boat to work.
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
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3.0 GT

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Friday, May 05, 2006 - 06:55 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 1UZ is a "design generation behind" a engine designed a year before it? I don't think so.

And I can't see a 1JZ lasting long at 20psi either. I've never heard of a 1UZ splitting its block under any application.

I would guess the 2UZ is more likely used in applications where the more expensive alloy block is not required (i.e, where weight is not a factor) Modern alloy blocks are NOT more likely to crack/split than iron, but they do cost a lot more to produce.
Dean Carsen
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SA
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Friday, May 05, 2006 - 09:23 am, by:  Dean Carsen (Deano) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They have to fill them with grout for high HP drag applications and then some still split Matthew

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