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Peter Nitschke
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 09:45 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Next issue, non TRC systems are completely different but have the same problem. The sensor is stuck into the side of the reservoir.
Dave Hart
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:47 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter,can you show with diagram what you mean?
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:55 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TRC system, sensor in the cap.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noctiluca/Soarer/EXtoyota4/localf~1/download/extoyo~1/wwwelc~1.ru/toyot a/fulli~90.htm

Non TRC system, sensor is mounted in the hole towards the bottom of the reservoir on the right hand side.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noctiluca/Soarer/EXtoyota4/localf~1/download/extoyo~1/wwwelc~1.ru/toyot a/fulli~91.htm
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:08 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will have a look at the tank after work tonite and give the lid a good clean. If that fixes it, good.

Dave did raise a good point, regarding the necessity to overfill the reservoir to avoid the warning. Sounds silly to me as well.
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 05:43 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, good diagram. I presume item 47299, from the non TRC unit, is a fine strainer and the level sensor fits in that boss below it horizontally. If so then I assume the float is mechanically linked to a switch but does it sit within a smaller chamber to reduce the free surface effect?
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 05:54 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam, what do you mean about giving the lid a clean? If you mean you'll clean the contacts ok.
A lot of people are obviously getting a positive result by topping up but I can't for the life of me see how that is fixing the problem as it won't get the float to rise any further as it only has a few mm of movement. So the real fix must lie elsewhere.
Unless someone can come up with a better explanation that elsewhere is what I've suggested in my previous thread.
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 06:31 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, you are correct about the location and the filter, but I have no idea if what is actually inside the reservoir.

Your solution for the TRC version sounds good, but until someone pulls the other type apart we won't know how to tackle it.

If it is a case of a waterlogged float, then eventually it might not work properly regardless of how much fluid is added.
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 07:15 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Upload

This is the part you have to clean
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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 07:19 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe this is a bit like the fuel gauge sender, and isn't a float at all - which makes sense.
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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 06:39 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jan, you're on to it.
If the switch still looks good then a quick clean and Bobs ya uncle.
Please explain, for our benefit, how to remove the float column from the switch.
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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 08:36 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just thinking re the topping up fix, maybe it isn't the actual topping up that works but rather the act of removing and replacing the sensor which activates the switch that actually does the fix albeit temporarily.
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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 12:39 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That wouldn't explain why it also works on the non TRC version though.
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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 02:00 pm, by:  Jan Christiansson (Janoc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Use a multi grip pliers grip around the plastic stalk twist a quarter lap and pull apart. As you can see in the photo (not so good photo but still visible) there is two bayonet wings on the stalk they are the ones who hold it together.
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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 04:22 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jan, I may be stupid but i just had a look at my brake fluid cap and there is no metal like dip stick attached to it? Am i looking in the wrong tank or what ?
Plus the fluid levels are right between low and high.
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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 04:46 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam, as the thread mentions, the TRC and non TRC brake systems have different sensor setups.

Jan is referring to the TRC setup which has the sensor in the cap.

You probably don't have TRC so the sensor is actually in the reservoir and as yet, we aren't sure how to get at it.
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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 05:03 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O OK.
As far as i know of my Soarer I dont think its got TRC.

Am I correct in assuming I need about 100ml to top up my brake fluid reservoir to fix this problem then ?
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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 05:50 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trial and error. Fill a little, if it still does it, fill a little bit more.

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