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Lars Olsson
Tinkerer
NSW
30 V8

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 06:21 pm, by:  Lars Olsson (Lars) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never sell a bike for a car. Even a soarer! Alot of my mates when they got married sold there bikes so there wife could drive the latest 4x4. Result a betten up 4x4 and no bike so no smile. The only smile my friends get is mine when I pull up on my bike. lol. There is something to this Im sure
Gareth Richards
TryHard
Bristol UK
GTT-L twin turbo auto

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 07:18 pm, by:  Gareth Richards (Garethr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Don Bagnall wrote on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 06:21 pm:

Does anyone remember those LETHAL 70's Kawasaki Red triples.


BIKE magazine once described the 750 as "thanatoid" **

They're an educated lot, bike journos :-)


** like death
Don Bagnall
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New Zealand
I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 07:19 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, they wern't wrong
Tom Kneebone
TryHard
WA
factory 5 spd TT : Auto TT

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:27 pm, by:  Tom Kneebone (Tomk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most fun bike I ever rode, Kwaka 750 turbo, couldn't feel the engine until 5000rpm.
Once spent 15mins at 200KPH on a highway in SA in the 80's, trying to catch up with my brother who passed us on his VF1000, which he was running in ,while I was taking over the controls of the turbo.There was a buzz. Bloke on the back fell asleep. Fastest I went on it, stuffed if I know another time on another deserted hwy ( we had them in those day's) came over a hill could see the road for miles, Opened it up on the crest last time I glanced the tacho and speedo were winding up pretty fast and just passing 225KPH. Didn't take my eyes of the road for the remaining few seconds I kept it wide open for.
Mike Triggs
DieHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 08:05 am, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Alfred Heng wrote on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:09 am:

Yes, especially the 750 which was essentially a bored out 500 and the frame could not handle the power.




Many bikes in those days couldn't handle their power output. The Japanese ignored British frame excellence for many years. I owned a Suzuki Titan which was a 500cc twin two-stroke and it felt like it was hinged in the middle and had a hideous howl. It also had a habit of sucking out gearbox oilseals (thereby consuming its own gearbox oil in combustion:-)). The Kwaka triple (500cc) I once rode was the most frightening thing I ever piloted. Scary stuff.
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:51 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Time to resurrect a deceased thread, and put my 2 cents in. Apologies - I'm at Uni and I'm bored.

As everyone's stated, bikes in a straight line cannot be faulted. The bigger the donk, the more you have to hang on; there is no replacement for displacement.

Cars and handling: it's all down to the chassis and the weight distribution. A mate of mine in Adelaide easily kept up with my GSX 750 on Gorge Rd, driving a 300ZX. But when we found some long sweepers, I left him for dead. I read somewhere about bikes being crappy in S-bends, which is hogwash. The rider needs to be comfortable with some serious counter steering, because utilising it to change direction works perfectly with the throttle 3/4 open and heading towards the rev limiter. The best way to stand the bike up is to take advantage of the gyroscopic motion of the wheels in relation to speed. Give it the berries, the bugger is going to stand up... flick it over to your opposite side and keep the power on. I have to say now, that's my favourite part about riding sports bikes.

Bikes and engine braking: you can't beat a V-twin when it comes to engine braking. Those two massive 500cc pots just cream anything out there when you let off the throttle, back off a gear and let them do their thing. You can't beat the noise either... that lovely over-run, the cracking and backfiring... it sounds MAGIC.

It'll be great when more companies start spending money on centre-hub steering. Observe: the Bimota Tesi 2-D.



The braking capability of those things is absolutely phenomenal. Virtually no front-end dive... I'd love to ride one.

As for the discussion on wind resistance at high speed, it's not really an issue provided you've got a screen to hide behind. The MotoGP boys do this crap day-in-day-out 365 days in the year, hitting 215mph on some of the longer straights and never have a problem. Bikes are incredibly stable at high speed, and can be practically impervious to side winds.

I better conclude and get my arse to class: it all boils down to how big your cajones are. Also, bike speedos are notoriously inaccurate and on the optimistic side, so it's not the speed you are producing, it's what you THINK you're doing.
David Vaughan
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ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 01:11 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Love the Bimota.

Are cajones cajun cojones? Do I have to put chilli on them as well?

Luke Nieuwhof
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WA
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 02:10 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Glen Muller wrote on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 10:51 am:

practically impervious to side winds


Not entirely sure about that...there's been occasions when drag meets involving bikes have been cancelled due to strong winds, they certainly get buffeted around and this is at 250kph +.
Bobby Green
Tinkerer
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 02:16 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had a kawasaki 600 for a year with the soarer, but the bike hardly got ridden. The soarer is more than fast enough for the street and so much more convenient. Getting suited up every time I went out was a pain and I wouldn't take passengers or be able to do any shopping with it. The straw that broke the camel's back was when a mate stacked his cbr and got roadrash all up his side and back and had to get skin grafts. He was almost run over by a truck too and was very lucky to survive. While the bike was extremely fun, even at slow speeds, I couldn't justify the risk of getting cleaned up by a unwary cage driver when the soarer is quite thrilling on its own.
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31

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Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:17 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear you Bobby, and the paranoia of falling off certainly sometimes outweighs the thrill of riding. I've had my fair share of prangs, but I'm fortunate enough not to have injured myself too badly.

I rode without leathers ONCE, and paid the price. Came off the back of my mate's VF750 V4 when he sped up suddenly and I was adjusting my under garment... landed on my back and arse in the middle of Payneham Rd (Adelaide) peak hour traffic and lost a ton of bark. I couldn't sit properly for 3 weeks, and needless to say taking a dump was an interesting activity during that time!

Won't do that again!}
Gary Poloskei
Tinkerer
A.C.T
Soarer TT

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 09:22 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This says it all really.
Nürburgring (Nordschleife) in Germany
The course has it all. 20km track
The fastest laptimes for car and motorbike.

22835 m
6.58.6 Ferrari 312B3 F1 Niki Lauda
2 August 1975

22835m
7:21.8 MV Agusta F4 312R Andy "AndyPath" Carlile 15 October 2008 (this is a typo, but thats what it says on the website)

Yes it was in an F1. but a Nissan GTR v-spec r34 gets around 7:25

attainable motorbike is Suzuki GSX-R1000K7
scoring a 7:35

the figures speak for themselves really.

source = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 10:36 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, that says it all for me. Next time I am on the street I shall definitely drive a 33 year old F1 car and know that I am faster than 100% of other cars and drivers on the road rather than only 95% of them, if only the roads and laws allowed any of it.

On my off-days I prefer something with ABS and impact air bags because if there is one place a bike will most probably get me faster it is the end of my life.

George Lu
TryHard
vic
v8

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:13 pm, by:  George Lu (Lux) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok... this is something funny and I would like to share it with you guys.. I was at tyre power once getting new tyres. This ozy big (as in tall and huge) dude came over and said
“ Hey, very nice car you have"
I said “I know, there an't many of these late model V8 running around"
his asked me “are they fast?"
I said “they do ok but I am not a rev head"
Then he said “you know what kid, I drive the fastest car"
I looked around and don't see any good cars. I asked him what he drives.
He said “it's not expensive, but it's the fastest on the street"

STI!!!! I asked.. he said no...
EVO!!! HSV!!! Rx8!!! 350Z!!!! I give up...
His pointed his finger to a 2001 Holden EXEC... it's a police car...
He goes I kick lambo's ass at the red lights. (I am thinking, I am sure the lambo are saving the other 8000 RPMs when you are not around )


So what is the fastest car or bike on the street... what every box the police are riding/driving.
Ryan McDonough
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30 TT

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 04:22 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL so true no matter what they will always be faster when I am around :-)
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 09:50 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is quick...the tomahawk.???
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Tai Johnsen
DieHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 10:36 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe in a straight line.... but even then, the gyroscopic forces would probably limit the throttle application..

Most hyper bikes (1000cc sport bikes) accelerate to 100Kph in 2.5 sec and are able to to a 10 sec 1/4 mile stock... all comes down to the rider and how well they can launch.

Not many cars can claim a power to weight ratio greater than 1:1..
Drew Rechner
TryHard
South Australia
JZZ30 TT

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Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:30 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Dont know if my Soarer could keep up with this
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 08:03 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Drew Rechner wrote on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:30 pm:

Dont know if my Soarer could keep up with this



Mine could... AND beat it.
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 08:44 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

zzzzzzzzz and then Callum woke up..ah
Ross Pesina
TryHard
Vic
Soarer T

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 05:33 pm, by:  Ross Pesina (Ross79) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bike is more fun. Sure it's not for everyone but bang for buck you'll never beat it!
I sold my soarer to buy a bike (paid exactly what I sold the soarer for). Used that as my only mode of transport for a couple years. Now I could afford a car so I bought another soarer. My girlfriend fell in love with it and swapped me for her supra (can't complain).
I only use the car when it's too cold (black ice on the road around here). I'll admit it can be a pain in the wet. Nearly all my mates ride now and they've never looked back. The car is faster through very tight 35km/h twisty stuff, but once the road opens up it's pretty hard to catch a good bike.

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