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Euge Chai
TryHard
WA
SOARER JZZ30 GTT-L

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 06:45 pm, by:  Euge Chai (Eugett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I need some new 235/45/17 inch tyres but unsure of which ones to get. I checked out the write up on planet soarer and pretty much gathered that the kumho 712's are the go for good cheap tyres.
With this in mind i started ringing around and no one seems to stock any and they cant be ordered in either. They just have the 711's in stock.

I also flicked through an old 2001 MOTOR magazine, which had a comparison for bang for your buck tyres comparison of 17" tyres and they said the falken grb451 to be the best.

Now my question is what tyres should i get for less than $200 ea???

kumho 711's? or 712? (if i can find a place to get them)
nankangs ns 2's?
falken 326? or 451?
sumitomo HTR z2?
nexen? clear? regal?
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 07:02 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This doesn't answer your question, but technically 245/45/17 is closer to the original size of the OEM wheels and tyres.
Murray Lund
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 07:22 pm, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Euge,

I bought 4 Goodyear Revspec RS-02 235/45/17 August last year for $210 each. These are quality tyres not el cheapos (they won the Wheels Sports Tyre of the Year last year outperforming Michelin and Pirelli and Bridgestone etc). I shopped around a bit for this price, and am very happy with them. (The tyres also come with a free rotation and balance every 5,000km.)

Just a couple more bucks and a couple of phonecalls can get you into a premium tyre instead of a Korean one.

Murray
Ryan Rankovic
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 07:38 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my nankang ns-2's are great
Avin Luther
Goo Roo
vic
Soarer uzz31 Limited

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 09:51 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found sumitomos better than Falkens, Kumhos better than both. Sumitomos were soft though. not great in the wet.
falkens let go easily if you push em round corners

i wont even compare the dunlops and bridgestones to any of the above. they rock!

A lot of people here seem to like nankangs, but i havent tried them
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 09:55 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I drove on some sort of nankangs once, terrifying.

I've always liked yokahama's, but the kumho's seem just as good, and maybe last a little bit longer.

My car has some old bridgestone potenza's on it at the moment and they seem to hang on really well, too.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer VVTi single turbo

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:21 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to have Falken Ziex something-or-other on my previous car... absolute crap and I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy.
Steven Nanevski
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30 Twin Turbo

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Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:28 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nakangs are a good tyre for me mate (cheap too), only real issue i had with them is make sure you keep them well pressured, because they are a hard walled tyre
Gary Redman
Tinkerer
NSW
UZZ31

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 12:35 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found increased tramlining with Falken, Kumho and Yokahamas. The Bridgestone Potenzas are brilliant but you will pay closer to $300 ea.
Damian Ware
Tinkerer
Victoria
Camry

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 12:36 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kumho 711's and 712's are

Don't waste you money, get mitchies if you can afford it.

There is a bridgestone tyre which is very good value for money as well. Not sure the exact number though.
James Johnson
TryHard
Victoria
TT

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 01:10 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mums car (uzz31) has falken on the rear and as soon as there is a little bit of rain the car kicks out sideways way way way to easy. bit of fun sometimes but yeh not really the best idea.

i call them plastic tyres. because they are rock hard with no grip.

will get some new tyres for her soon.
Rob Andreacchio
Moderator
Victoria
UZZ31 V8 / JZZ30 TT

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 02:52 pm, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gotta agree with Tim here... Cant go wrong with thw Nankang NS2's... and especially on the V8 as they have a load rating of 95H. Most tyres coming out have a 91 or 92 rating.
Nick Petkovic
TryHard
WA
Soarer V8 Limited

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 04:13 pm, by:  Nick Petkovic (Naissus96) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My car currently has some "noname" tyres. I never really paid much attention to these ones.
I used to have Bridgestone G-Grids on my other car and they were amazing tyres, except that they were a bit too noisy if the car spins out. They were expensive as well: $135 per tyre for 205/60/15! Well worth the money though
Murray Lund
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 08:26 pm, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do yourself a favour, do some research, read some tyre tests. The only way to compare tyres is in a blind test in a range of conditions in the same car - wet and dry braking, wet and dry cornering, slalom, roadnoise etc etc. Personal opinions are interesting but in my experience pretty subjective. Wheels had a good comparison of about 10 different 235/35/17 tyres in 2005. As I mentioned above, the Goodyear Revspec RS-02 came out the winner. They were testing on an XR6 which is probably a similar weight to a Soarer.

Can't understand the logic of saving a couple of bucks by fitting crap tyres to a powerful car. I picked up RS-02's for $210 by shopping around.
Trevor Tai
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT-TL

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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 02:27 pm, by:  Trevor Tai (Quiksilva) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I started of with Nankang NS-2's and they were great but noisy, had no problems going around corners like crazy when it was pouring with rain!!! Then I saw all the hype about the Kumho 712's. But apparently they are starting to phase them out and replace them with Kumho SPT KU31's. So I did some research on the web, and they seems to best the 712's a little. So now I have myself some KU31's, they seem quieter and no problems for 2000kms so far. Now bring on the wet season!!!
Damian Ware
Tinkerer
Victoria
Camry

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Friday, May 12, 2006 - 03:09 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just take the tyre results with a grain of salt as they are done with brand new tyres.

One of the reasons the mitchies are soo good is that they continue to work really well even once the tread he mostly worn.

My bro loves the good years, I think they are good but the wear really really fast.

I have no doubt that the best all round tyre for grip, noise, life are the mitchalen tyres.
Euge Chai
TryHard
WA
SOARER JZZ30 GTT-L

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 07:13 pm, by:  Euge Chai (Eugett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well cheers for everyones input

i opted for the kumho 712's. Just couldnt look past them after what the guy in the shop told me and all the reviews i have read. There must be a reason why the police and driver training places use them. Paid $175ea which wasnt too bad.
Trevor Tai
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer GT-TL

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 07:43 pm, by:  Trevor Tai (Quiksilva) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's because the kumho's are the best bang for your buck tyres you can get!

No doubt the Michelins are better! But at a dearer price...
Aaron Mead
TryHard
NT
TT

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:30 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best 235/45R17 value for money-wise is the MAXXIS tyre. Available from Bob Jane, they are only $145 each, and came third out of 14 in wheels or motors tyre test shootout last year. Great value for money. They beat a lot of big brandnames in a test that included G force, wet/dry lap times, and of course BRAKING.
Damian Ware
Tinkerer
Victoria
Camry

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Monday, May 15, 2006 - 02:42 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I tired the 712's and I didn't not like them at all, funnily enough the tyre reviews view 711's as being better.

So I tried those as well and they were too.

The only other tyre I would bother to try would be a P Zero as I have heard similar things to what the Michelins do.

As to the dealer price yes that is true but how long are you going to have the tyres and what is that worth. Your tyres make contact with the road and is one of the most important aspects of your cars handling and safety.

Is is worth saving a tank of petrol to get 4 tyres instead of 4 good tyres which most people will have for 3 years. I personally dont think so and I'm reminded of it every time I get into my car and drive in the wet.
Greg Jones
Newbie
ACT
SC 400

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Reg: 05-2006

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 04:01 pm, by:  Greg Jones (Gregj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am currently running sumitomos on my SC400 and find them quite good. They do have a bit of a tendency to lose traction on the back when pushed in the wet but otherwise good.

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