Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 09:11 pm, by: Aaron Mead(Aaron)
Stock vs Stock, yeah the supra is certainly a better sports car.
Everyday value? Hmmm....the Soarer is nicer. Has a proper boot. Doesnt offend the HSV driving company director that pays you. Luxury is limitless depending how far you want to go.
Supra, a *little* too hardcore for everyday use. Gobs of bottom end though. Better a Supra manual, than a non vvt-i Soarer manual.
Class? Soarer, hands down, blinfolded, while sipping cognac.
Street cred? Supra (from ricers point of view) is cooler. Soarer (from smart drivers point of view) is coolest.
Running costs? Methinks even stevens? Insurance probly cheaper for soarer.
Overall? Im a soarer man. Wouldnt mind having a JZA80 TT for weekend hooning. I mean track work.
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:01 pm, by: Sam Schreck(Schreck300)
I've driven quite a few TT Supras. I was tossing up between Supra and Soarer prior to buying my Soarer. For pure accelleration, the TT Supra was mind blowing for me. I did experience a couple that needed a lot of TLC but most were stunning. The main reason I didn't get one - Wanted a car with dual airbags, no exceptions. Those models were still starting up around $48k at the time. I drove 3 or 4 NA manual Supras as well and was not at all disappointed with their performance. Between a non-turbo Supra and non-turbo Soarer - I didn't want to trade all the Soarer luxuries and class for a rather exhausting car to drive on a daily basis.
Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:30 am, by: Nephtali Nani(Nassy)
Sam Schreck wrote on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 02:01 pm:
Between a non-turbo Supra and non-turbo Soarer - I didn't want to trade all the Soarer luxuries and class for a rather exhausting car to drive on a daily basis.
Good call Sam. You made a smart decision there. The added cop hassles with the Supra would be a pain in the ass.
Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 01:19 pm, by: Paul Brockbank(Brockas)
I've driven both now quite a few times (gf ownes TT supra).
The Supra basically makes boost off the line, but I find the sequential turbo setup a pain in the ass, depending how much throttle you give it it will kick in, and sometimes it wont. No where near as much fun as the Soarer's setup, as the Soarer will really come on in one big hit. The Supra's power delivery is far more linear.
I've now had the opportunity to swap my car for an equally modified Auto TT Supra, and I couldn't do it. The overall driving position of the Supra makes the interior feel a lot smaller than it actually it. Also, visibility out the rear quarters is poor, as per most hatchback coupes. The handling doesn't really feel much different than that of the Soarer's, as they share the same platform. On the cars that I've driven, the Soarer brakes a lot harder, but that would be due to the pads, I'm sure a 95+ Supra with fresh pads will out-stop a Soarer any day of the week.
Having said that, I'm still considering selling my car for a Manual TT Supra, simply because they are a turbo and fuel system away from 500rwhp. Great base car to work with, which is the appeal for me.
Completely stock, auto TT vs auto TT, I would buy the Soarer, as the Supra is not worth the additional 7-8k. The sports car appeal of the Supra is ruined by the auto box. Auto = luxury, which the Soarer is far better for. However, if you're willing to import, you can get TT Manual Supra's for less than 20k now, which is the best buy as the Getrag box alone will often command 4-5k. If you have a look at the price of the imports, a manual supra is only 2-3k more than an auto. Really no point buying an auto TT Supra...
Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:20 am, by: Paul Brockbank(Brockas)
Why would MK4's be effected by the 15 year old rule? The majority weren't even close to being 15 years old when it was canned. The '93 models are starting to get a little long in the tooth now, and are depreciating in Japan. You can buy a TT Manual Supra for 11k or less in Japan, the rest of the money is spent on getting it over here and then duty and taxes.
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