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Callum Finch
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WA
Soarer TT

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Monday, June 19, 2006 - 08:58 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neil, my Tornado Wind rocks, thank you very much! =\
Cihan Aday
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Emanage is tha good.
JZZ30

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Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:15 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Anthony Matthews wrote on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 05:03 pm:

For that price it'd want to come with HOT nymphomaniac girlfriend preinstalled on the passenger seat!



Quoted for truth!


Mike Bradberry wrote on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 06:49 pm:

Bloody hell she'd have to be there a long time to warrant that sort of money.



Steven Nanevski
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30 Twin Turbo

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Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:56 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dreaming free......

I wonder if her sold it yet, after all it looks pretty clean....
Sean Tusler
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30 TT

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Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:31 pm, by:  Sean Tusler (Viperlover55) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, tell him he's dreamin'
Bill Bogiatzis
Tinkerer
NSW
TT

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Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:46 pm, by:  Bill Bogiatzis (Boggie23) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Toyota-Soarer-Lexus-GT-Limited-Edition-UZ32-SC400-4WS_W0QQitemZ4649476715QQca tegoryZ102318QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting


What about this 1.


Do many of the soarer tv's actually work????


Or is it the nav that i am confusing?????


Also why is this one so rare and will go up in price???


Does it have 4 wheel steer???
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 07:39 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its rare because its an active, but I think he's wrong about there being only 600 ever built - it was more like 800 or 900. Yes, it has 4 wheel steering and computer controlled suspension too.

No, it won't go up in value - thats bullshit. Very very few cars go up in value, and most have names like Ferrari attached to them, or are over 40 years old.
Ken Cornell
TryHard
Western Australia
4.0GT V8 Soarer

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 08:11 am, by:  Ken Cornell (Dunadan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still $15K is reasonable for that... unlike $50k for that one
Damian Ware
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Victoria
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:48 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a scam to me, I wonder if it is even an active. I would stay away from that for sure.
Alan Carter
TryHard
Vic
V8 UZZ31

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 07:30 pm, by:  Alan Carter (Alky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It doesn't even have the temperature on the dash - looks like a POV pack dash. '94 model Soarers do have the temp next to the clock
Callum Finch
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WA
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:56 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TOO MANY GADGETS TO BREAK IN THEM 32s! ='(
Mark Paddick
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ACT
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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:23 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even 40 year old Ferraris don't appreciate if they're not exactly the right model...


...and that suits me fine 'cos I happen to really like the ones that aren't the exact right model to appreciate


Working TV's are getting rarer and rarer.......
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 06:43 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mark Paddick wrote on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:23 pm:

...and that suits me fine 'cos I happen to really like the ones that aren't the exact right model to appreciate




So true. Car's should never be treated as an investment anyway - 99% of the time they are money pits regardless of how desirable they are.
Mark Paddick
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ACT
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 01:37 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've owned somewhere in the vicinity of 65 cars.
I made money on 3 of them.
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 02:12 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hah, based on my 99% comment Mark, you are WAY ahead!

Of course you can make money out of buying and selling cars, but generally not if you keep them in between.
Antony Borlase
Tinkerer
QLD
UZZ31

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 02:20 pm, by:  Antony Borlase (Borlase) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark-I mentioned I have a working TV right?

Which 3 cars made you money, and which were the 3 worse cars for losses?
Mark Paddick
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ACT
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 03:56 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ferrari 365GT2+2, Ferrari 365GT4 2+2 and Holden LH SLR5000. All made me more than $10k. The early 365 made a profit of $56k (basket case when I got it for $5k, sold for $85k). GTS327 Monaro made a couple of $k, as did E38 Charger and E55 Charger and E48 Charger and 360 VH Charger.

Dino 308 (highly modified; 288 TT motor, alloy racing body etc etc) lost me in the region of $150k so that wiped out all the gains; but I'd do it again!
Ferrari 308 lost around $15k in 6 years...not bad at all really, just running costs.
VL friggin' Turbo Commo wagon; paid $15k when 3 months old. Got $2k for it 3 years later. Piece of (good motor though).

Datsun 1600 rally car...I don't even want to think about that one! probably cost me more than the Dino but we did win a few things in it.

See a pattern here?
All the cars that made money were bog stock standard desirable cars.
The more mods then the more money lost. And competition-use cars (the Dino still holds a couple of national records and will forever as the tracks I did it on are now closed) lost heaps.
Ben Socratous
TryHard
SA
Iv'e started to put my interior back together!!!

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 05:44 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ferrari 288 GTO

Only 272 were built from '84 to '86. Still managed in excess of 300km/hr though. Not to mention the face that one was sold at auction in London a month after Enzo Ferrari died for over 18 million POUNDS, that's like nearly $45,000,000AUD!!! Imagine the insurance on that
Ben Socratous
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 05:49 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BTW 365 and 308, RESPECT!!!

Most people hate those models, but I love 'em, or anything else with that magical horse on the bonnet, or would that be the boot? Either way if it came out of Maranello, it's good in my books!
Ben Socratous
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 05:53 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Callum Finch wrote on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 08:58 pm:

Neil, my Tornado Wind rocks, thank you very much!




Interesting, I thought that it would BLOW more than anything?!? Now my earthquake rubble, that ROCKS!!!
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 manual

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 05:58 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you consider that you can pick one up today for under US$0.5M then a price of more US$29M, about sixty times higher, may seem a trifle excessive; unless, of course, the story is not quite completely true?

By the way, Mark did not say he owned a 288 GTO.
Ben Socratous
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SA
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 07:28 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 05:58 pm:

By the way, Mark did not say he owned a 288 GTO




I'm aware of that, was just making a point about appreciating values. Did a bit more research on that, turns out it was Enzo's personal car and was auctioned off for charity to a collector, still a sh!t load of $$$ though!
Callum Finch
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WA
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:21 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish i had as much money as Mark to own Ferrari's =(
Matthew Sharpe
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JZZ31

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Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 06:40 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mark Paddick wrote on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 03:56 pm:

Ferrari 308 lost around $15k in 6 years...not bad at all really, just running costs.




Any performance car that costs you $15,000 over 6 years is good value fun!
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 09:37 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The amount of fun you're having is directly proportional to the amount of money you're spending.
Mark Paddick
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Friday, June 23, 2006 - 12:27 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, 288's are worth heaps. I got really lucky and picked up a rare alloy Dino body (bare) and a smashed 288..., read totally demolished, the insurance company didn't even try to sell the wreck off it was that bad. All I got out of it was the engine.

None of the Ferraris cost more than I paid for the Soarer but then all needed heaps of work; I just happened to be able to do the work cheaply.
If you go for the unloved models you can pick 'em up at the right place and time for bugger all (relatively speaking).

308 Dinos are now worth heaps. About treble what the same model 308 Ferrari is and the only difference is the badging. Pick up a Ferrari 308 and change the badges, wheels and steering wheel and not even the experts can tell the difference without resorting to checking engine numbers against production history. Some of those records are pretty sketchy too; that particular scam is getting a bit well known now though and Dino prices are starting to drop again.
Alloy bodied racing Dinos are worth a king's ransom and then some now Shame my old one got wrapped around a tree big time; like 250+kph at Lakeside (if you knew the old Lakeside track just remember how far the nearest tree was to the track. I reckon he left the track at 320+kph 'cos that tree is about 450 metres away!). Fortunately it wasn't mine by then.

Dan, you got it!!!
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 04:25 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

:-)

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