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Khan Islam
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UZZ31 V8 Limited

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Friday, June 16, 2006 - 01:20 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys ,,,help me out, I know the 3.0ltr would be cheaper than a single turbo.
In terms of fuel efficiency how cheap is it?
Don Bagnall
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New Zealand
I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(

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Friday, June 16, 2006 - 01:32 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ere ya go Khan......wrap ya eyeballs round this lot.....

CAVEAT: I originaly posted this on TIF, hence the Miles per Gallon refferences


From the original 1994 Soarer sales brochure: The 3.0 GT will get 8.1 kms per litre on average of town & country driving, with a "Best" consumption of 15.5 kms per litre at a steady 60 kph, or 24 mpg average of town & country driving, with a "Best" consumption of 45 mpg at a steady 37.3 mph!!!!!.

Like we all drive our Soarers at a steady 60 kph/ 37.3 mph (Yeah, right!!).

Interestingly (Or not!) the GT-L V8 figures (From the brochure) say: 23.44 mpg average of town & country driving, with a "Best" of 41.3 mpg at a steady 37.3 mph HaHa!

The UZZ32's figures are 19.9 mpg town & country average, with a best of 36.3 mpg (we wish!!!)

So to conclude, I would suggest that a 3.0 GT should be capable of: 34.5 + mpg on the open road.

A V8 GT-L should be capable of: 32.37 + mpg on the open road.

A UZZ32 should be capable of: 28.1 + mpg on the open road.

So idealy you should be getting another 6.4 mpg out of a 3.0 over a V8 "Active" on the open road.

I think people automaticaly assume that the 3 litre will be heaps cheaper to run around town in, but the reality is that they're still a heavy car, with a smaller engine, hence there's not a hell of a lot of difference between the 3.0 & the 4.0 in city driving situations.

As an aside, the TT automatic gets identical town & country consumption as a 4.0 GT-L @ 23.44 mpg, but gets 48.91 mpg at the "Ideal" steady 37.3 mph.
So it's capable of returning: 36.48 mpg on the open road.

The TT manual gets 26.08 mpg average of town & country driving, with a "Best" consumption of 49.52 mpg at a steady 37.3 mph.
So it's capable of returning 37.49 mpg on the open road, making it the most "Economical" Soarer of the lot, being "Only" 2.5 litres n' all.

Also, remember that these figures were when the cars were NEW......NOT 15 years old.



Khan Islam
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UZZ31 V8 Limited

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Friday, June 16, 2006 - 03:01 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Don being patient and for the detail response. You are a CHAMP!!
I have seen a 1997 silver 3.00 vvti non turbo at $15999 and a 1997 black VVTI single turbo at $20999. I love the single turbo cuz its black :-)(not too keen in turbos). i was not sure about the fuel efficincy. I am gonna test drive em tommorow. lets see what happens.
Neil Griffiths
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NSW
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Friday, June 16, 2006 - 05:19 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here ya go Khan.

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/5079/73468.html?1149315909
Jose-Antonio Castillo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer VVTi

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Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 12:54 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Khan, do it mate. Here's some inspiration for you to buy a VVTi turbo, maybe in black as well hey


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BTW: The white one at Neil's looks like a gem. Very clean unit.
Khan Islam
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UZZ31 V8 Limited

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Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 11:08 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a day!! Drove all the soarers today :-) 97 3 ltr non turbo, 97 2.5 vvti single turbo, 95 2.5 twin turbo. vvti feels faster and more refined. Non turbo was fantastic too if i trade off the power. It is simple that means less problem and maintanence in future= less $$$.

i am offered $11000 for my V8 as trade in. They are asking My V8+$6500 for 3 ltr and My V8+$10000 for single turbo vvti on the road. what do you think guys, is it reasonable?
I am going to see another white 97 single turbo vvti on monday and then i will make my mind.
Richard Tan
TryHard
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Turbo

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 12:57 am, by:  Richard Tan (Ric) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

drive a manual vvti and then u'll hit the sweet spot
Neil Griffiths
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NSW
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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 09:06 am, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd take $12,000 + your V8 for my 98 VVT-i.

Then I'd make yours manual and supercharged :-)
Don Bagnall
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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:07 am, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The $11k trade in price IS good from a dealer, it's now down to you which one ya choose, although if buck saving (initialy & ongoing) is your main consideration, then it's hard to go past the 3.0liter
Khan Islam
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UZZ31 V8 Limited

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 07:12 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with you Don. $$$ is important though its hard to trade off the power. 3 ltr would serve my purpose now a days.
Damian Ware
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 08:06 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

buy Neil's
Cihan Aday
DieHard
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JZZ30

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 08:23 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Id buy Neils.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer VVTi

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 09:30 pm, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$10000 is a good trade in price.


Tim Eacott wrote on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 02:28 pm:

new rims jose?



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Khan Islam
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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:51 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am thinking to have this
3 ltr non turbo
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Khan Islam
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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:52 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Khan Islam
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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:54 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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I will put new rims, tint, maybe some more in future.
Khan Islam
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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 09:56 pm, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

very basic soarer but newer. what do you think guys?
Cihan Aday
DieHard
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:16 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Obvious respray and the engines come out, renewed toptank.
Indicates to be that its over 140,000kms easy.
The engine fan shroud looks like its been replaced. Also looks like there's a few non-factory clamps.

Thats all i can tell without seeing the car.
How much? how many kays do they say?
There are much better ones out there...
Ben Daniel
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WA
TT

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Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:19 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't someone in this forum selling that ??? Looks pretty nice to me. How exactly is the respray obvious ??? You must be a damn good (and qualified) spray painter to be able to tell that from looking at those pictures.
Nephtali Nani
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victoria
TT & V8

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 02:56 am, by:  Nephtali Nani (Nassy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The top tank could have been sprayed, check the sides of it, they are still black.

Maybe the previous owner was a ricer boy.
Matthew Sharpe
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JZZ31

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 06:38 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could still be a good buy, if the price is right.
Khan Islam
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UZZ31 V8 Limited

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 09:52 am, by:  Khan Islam (Khan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it has done 69k according to them. They are asking my 91 V8 ltd and $6000 on the road.
Cihan, how do you say all these. it was great. Can you explain a bit more. Thanks mate.

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