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Scott Vandertogt
Tinkerer
wa
v8

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Reg: 10-2006

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 11:09 pm, by:  Scott Vandertogt (Greddy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have been to wa suspensions to have my car lowered and was quoted 2400 for tein coil overs, it is on 17s and i think it just rides to high it is about 3 inches(maybe higher) from top of the wheel to arch, i have seen other soarers with rims and standard suspension and theres are much lower, i don't have the tools or resources to lower it myself with DIY tutorial, can anybody who has lowered there car just give me some advice on what to do please
Paul Brockbank
Goo Roo
WA
GT35R Single T

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Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 11:48 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jack car up.

Use angle grinder to remove desired height from springs.

Remove jack.







But seriously....

Get yourself a set of Tein Springs, or springs of some sort. Shouldn't cost you more than $300.

Only get coilovers if you use your car on the track a lot, or drive it really hard on the street.
Paul Brockbank
Goo Roo
WA
GT35R Single T

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 11:50 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh I also know of someone who used an oxy to heat his springs while his car was on a jack, then lower the car. When the springs cool they compress and the car ends up lower.

Don't do this.
Vinh Bui
Goo Roo
NSW
94 UZZ31 (V8) / 96 JZZ30 (TT)

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Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 11:58 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If your car is a UZZ31, wouldn't you have air suspension? If so, you'll need an aftermarket air suspension controller. Jeff Harper from f1kits.com can supply these brand new with manuals (I think).

Maybe their $2400 quote was because they needed to remove your air suspension struts and replace them? I have no idea how much the actual coilovers would cost, but I'd imagine the process of removing the air suspension struts justify the total cost.
Paul Brockbank
Goo Roo
WA
GT35R Single T

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 12:09 am, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$2400 for fitted new TEIN coilovers isn't a rip off. It's not cheap, but neither are the parts.
Justin Hughes
Goo Roo
VIC
TT

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 12:12 am, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2 x 10mm Spanners and a can of WD40 - EASY (assuming your V8 is a UZZ-31)

http://planetsoarer.com/lower/Lower.html
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 09:29 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think TEIN SS's retail for roughish $2000 in WA. $2400 installed would be an attractive price imo.
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
UZZ31 V8 Soarer , JZZ30 TT Soarer

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 10:10 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My new design height controller for Airbag AND Active cars will be ready in the first half of next year.
Please do not bug me about it yet. I'm still testing designs.

Cost of removing/fitting struts should be bugger all. Most cost will be the new struts. In fact you can usually con them for freee fitting when buying new. This is what makes me laugh about people removing the air suspension. If it's done properly it's going to cost as much or more than fixing the air suspension with new struts that you know are going to fit properly and work properly and not devalue the car.
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 11:24 am, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why can't you just use the air suspension height controller??? Costs bugger all!
Scott Vandertogt
Tinkerer
wa
v8

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 06:58 pm, by:  Scott Vandertogt (Greddy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where can i get the air suspension controller from anything is better then the way is is now, except for the angle grinding way
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 07:10 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here you go:
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/1812/83349.html?1153995262
Scott Vandertogt
Tinkerer
wa
v8

Posts: 13
Reg: 10-2006

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 08:53 pm, by:  Scott Vandertogt (Greddy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks alot, were abouts would i take this to get it fitted?
Vinh Bui
Goo Roo
NSW
94 UZZ31 (V8) / 96 JZZ30 (TT)

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 09:39 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do it yourself. Take the rear seats off (there's a tutorial for that on this site somewhere) then plug it straight in.
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
ACT
UZZ31 V8 Soarer , JZZ30 TT Soarer

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Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 10:49 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If any of the aftermarket designs were any good at all I would be using one and not designing my own.
I still use an ASE 664 for it's height monitoring 'cos I haven't gotten around to a height display but it's even really useless for that.
All aftermarket designs are modifications of the factory high/low switch setup which is fine for what the factory did. But as soon as you start to vary the height by more than a small amount it has severe limitations. This is why both Active and Airbag cars don't vary a great deal in height with the factory switch.
All but one design is digitally based and some with only 5 steps in level. Even the best has only 16. This applies to the level monitor in the 664 too which is why it is not of great use. Feild and others are the same.
There is only one aftermarket system that is continuously variable and that is the cheapest.
None of them actually intercept and correctly modify the height sensors. This is because they realise that they cannot sample the height either quickly enough or at great enough resolution.
One system that would work extremely well is the Jaycar DFA but you would need 4 of them and it would be rather cumbersome to adjust. At least it would give you 256 steps sampled at a 4MHz rate which is good enough.
Any of the Jap controllers could be that good. They just need to throw some computing power at them rather than gimmick electronics.

My controller continuously monitors and alters height sensor outputs altering only their DC level while maintaining the original analogue sensor signal without distorting it in any way. It can also alter the amplitude of the analogue signal allowing fine control of suspension behaviour. And on Actives too. No other system can do that or, as I say, I would not have gone to the effort.
Scott Vandertogt
Tinkerer
wa
uzz31 v8

Posts: 34
Reg: 10-2006

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Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 12:14 am, by:  Scott Vandertogt (Greddy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i received my air suspension controller today the ASE664 i was wondering has anybody in W.A also had this fitted or does anybody have an english manual........my japanese is a little rusty, i would like it in as soon as possible so any help is greatly appreciated
Justin Hughes
Goo Roo
VIC
TT

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Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 01:14 am, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Scott - just take the backseat out and remove the rear passenger side armrest panel.

Look down there and you'll see the TEMS Controller. Unplug it, plug your loom in as a 'piggyback' and you're done :-)
Scott Vandertogt
Tinkerer
wa
uzz31 v8

Posts: 38
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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 03:43 pm, by:  Scott Vandertogt (Greddy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have the controller in but i need now set it up, i didn't put it in i had someone else do it at the same time as replace my alternator anybody who has one no how to set it up?
Leon Wright
TryHard
WA
V8 UZZ31

Posts: 409
Reg: 08-2006

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 07:05 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depends on what sort of Height Controller it is. Brand/Model Number?

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