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Drew Rechner
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South Australia
JZZ30 TT

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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 08:42 am, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got defected on saturday night at about 2am on park tce. As I had finished the breathalyzer test cop asked whether my car was turbo, me being honest I said Yes, the instantly told me they need to inspect my car. Fair enough.

They did my for exhaust system, Pod air filter and Boost gauge on A-Pilar. All of which I know is non ADR compliant and thus illegal when I fitted them.

The only problem I have is that the cop didnt really know anything about cars:
1. On the defect notice it says my car is a Supra.
2. According to this fella by removing the mufflers on a turbocharged car and replacing them with cannons ect you change the Turbo chargers gear ratio and thus emits 1000000% more carbon emissions. The constable kept repeating about the gear ratio's on the turbo's, last time I checked my CT12A's dont have 1st,2nd and 3rd..... I think he may have been meaning that the car is now boosted and more fuel is being used thus more emissions.
3. Pod filter- He didnt say anything about it being fitted, just that it wasnt secured well enough.
4. gauges on the A pillar....speaks for itself.

Im not bitter that I have to fix these things, thats not an issue, I have stock air box, stock mufflers and will remove the gauges when I go through regency. Im bitter because I was pegged as trouble because I have a Turbo. And that the officer in question did not know an awful lot about cars.
Brenton Trafford
DieHard
SA
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 09:45 am, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My first thought would be that if he's incorrectly filled out the defect notice, calling the car a Supra, it may not be valid. I'd seek legal advice on that one.
David Vaughan
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ACT
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 09:57 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not a problem for him if he got the registration number right, I expect.
Drew Rechner
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 10:37 am, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah the rego plate is correct. Darn Saturday Blitz on cars
Ashley Leach
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:09 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is why I spent the weekend in the hills.

Stupid cops. They always go to town on import cars, lets just say I'm lucky that I have a V8. I don't seem to get bothered as much.
Brenton Trafford
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SA
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:48 pm, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I live in the hills. I get to blast up and down Greenhill Rd every day
Miles Baker
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 06:55 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why are you upset? Cops know that turbo cars are way more often the subject of illegal modification. Like yours. Their targetting paid dividends, the removal of a defective car from the roads.
Drew Rechner
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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 07:33 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Miles Baker wrote on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 06:55 pm:

Why are you upset? Cops know that turbo cars are way more often the subject of illegal modification. Like yours. Their targetting paid dividends, the removal of a defective car from the roads.




Not upset mate, I knew the mods I did were illegal. I got off pretty lightly and am quite thankful for that. The officer in question was pleasant and I did not give him a hard time to any lip. My sister and her friend were also in the car giving the cop a lot of flak which he took with a grain of salt and did not take it out on either me or my car.

As I stated before its not the defect im upset about its the fact that the feller doing it didnt know a whole lot about cars and he didnt even check to see what type of car it was
Ben Wyatt
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SA
TT

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Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 09:44 pm, by:  Ben Wyatt (Ben_wyatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds exactly how i got defected!

Pulled over, passed bretho, asked if it was turbo, i said yes its actually got 2! park your car over there son thanks very much

Defected for too loud (car was off)
Defected for too low (didnt measure it)

asked me if i had a BOV, i said yes, they asked me to show them i did, the stock ones, they didnt believe me that turbo cars come from the factory with a BOV, they then asked what they actually did (WTF?) and i explained and he actually seemed pretty enlightened

One cop just sat in my car and started ranting about how my brake pedal went too far down, i said the brakes in the car are excellent and would probably out brake their patrol cars, he wanted to drive my car and test it to which i said absolutely not, so he just defected me for all the other for what its worth, i changed nothing to do with the brakes and when it went through regency it was almost 100% perfect on their brake test thingy

SA cops should spend more time targeting DUI than defecting, countless people i know Drink drive everywhere and never get caught :-(
Galo Cheung
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Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 11:51 pm, by:  Galo Cheung (Galo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i agree with Brenton, the fine should be invalid since there is a wrong model name----which means an inconsistency on the fine. a reasonable doubt is sufficient to invalid the fine.
Miles Baker
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Friday, August 29, 2008 - 07:36 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Galo Cheung wrote on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 11:51 pm:

i agree with Brenton, the fine should be invalid since there is a wrong model name----which means an inconsistency on the fine. a reasonable doubt is sufficient to invalid the fine.


See what a magistrate says. I think it will end in "and the prosecutor's costs".


Drew Rechner wrote on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 07:33 pm:

As I stated before its not the defect im upset about its the fact that the feller doing it didnt know a whole lot about cars and he didnt even check to see what type of car it was


Get over it, it's not his passion. He did the required training at work to spot an illegally modified car and it worked. I see absolutely nothing wrong with anything the cop did.
Danny Novosel
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SA
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Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 09:50 pm, by:  Danny Novosel (Dtheman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clearly Miles you have never been defected for a stock vehicle, My wife and I got defected in a ford laser 2000 model, stock, and factory standard. GOT DONE FOR ILLEGAL WINDOW TINT. FACTORY STANDARD FROM FORD. My dad's friend is 60 years old, has just bought a brand new FPV Pursuit and it's sweet, Yep he got done for being too low. My Soarer got done for too low, stock height and just a vertex kit. When the cop defected me he measured the car with a boot load of stuff and 3 adults in the car on an uneven ground, and he wrote on the notice "CUT SPRINGS".... Obviously I was Pssssssd so I went to the police station and made a complaint against the officer in question. They sent a traffic control officer out to see my car, it was cleared instantly. I know i'm ranting but these patrol officers do not have the correct training and should not have the authority to go around and take cars off the road when all care has been taken to maintain it at the highest level and the safest
Ben Socratous
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SA
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Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 11:01 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol, sounds a bit like one of my mates that was done for having a front facing bonnet scoop... on a WRX!!!

If there is something genuinely wrong with my car then I'll cop it sweet, but if they are just going to make sh1t up such as factory tint being to dark, or the turbo gear ratio (which I'm still amazed happened!), that is where the line is drawn.
Miles Baker
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Monday, September 01, 2008 - 07:23 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Danny Novosel wrote on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 09:50 pm:

Clearly Miles you have never been defected for a stock vehicle, My wife and I got defected in a ford laser 2000 model, stock, and factory standard




Well since the subject of this thread is a modified car, I am wondering why you are bringing up your Laser and having a go at me about it. Getting defected for a stock car is wrong but we weren't talking about that were we? Take you bitterness to a thread it applies to.
Drew Rechner
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South Australia
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Monday, September 01, 2008 - 08:26 am, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Socratous wrote on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 11:01 pm:

or the turbo gear ratio (which I'm still amazed happened!), that is where the line is drawn.




Im still amazed too, oh well the car is back to stock and I need to replace the drivers seat belt then should get through regency no problems and my uncle has a hoist at his house so I will do a full check of the underneath for oil leaks before I go
James Harris
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Monday, September 01, 2008 - 12:03 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

interesting read.

I think its happened to most of us unfortunately.

I got done a while ago for "Undue Noise" for my exhaust. I was pretty annoyed cos i was not even giving it a bootfull AND it was my OLD exhaust which was pretty quiet actually !

Anyways it was a rough $240 fine and i lost 3 points... i was bloody spewing, that is like the same punishment as running a red light !

I kinda wish he had defected me for my exhaust as i would have been able to clear it easy and it would not have cost me soo much.

It is just the name of the game unfortunately boys and girls... drive a nice car.. become a target...
Drew Rechner
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Monday, September 01, 2008 - 02:10 pm, by:  Drew Rechner (Drew1jz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


James Harris wrote on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 12:03 pm:

It is just the name of the game unfortunately boys and girls... drive a nice car.. become a target...




True....... im also glad I dont own a Skyline, police in Adelaide have a vendetta on them
David Vaughan
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Monday, September 01, 2008 - 07:13 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

glad I dont own a Skyline, police in Adelaide have a vendetta on them


I offer a bet that there are more Skyline crashes per thousand Skylines than Soarer crashes per thousand Soarers, and similarly the rate of Soarer crashes by vehicle count is higher for 1JZ (i.e. TT) than for 2J or 1UZ cars.
Matthew Crawford
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Monday, September 01, 2008 - 09:33 pm, by:  Matthew Crawford (Doink) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 07:13 pm:

the rate of Soarer crashes by vehicle count is higher for 1JZ (i.e. TT) than for 2J or 1UZ cars.




Because you're never going fast enough!!
Ashley Leach
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Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 11:07 am, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I broke 260 the other day... Hmmm.
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Ashley Leach wrote on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 11:07 am:

I broke 260 the other day...



What?........bottles of beer on the wall
Ashley Leach
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Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 08:56 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually at 10c each now no way, that's good cash with the amount of bottles that I rack up at my place.
Scott Gates
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TT

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Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 09:04 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah i think the hobos in town will be fighting over the bins now.lol
Gary Poloskei
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Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 02:36 pm, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my turbos have 10 gears. and i change them with telekenesis.
Karen Farmer
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Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 02:42 pm, by:  Karen Farmer (Angel_wings) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi I was just reading these thread and wanted to say that having the wrong model on the defect notice doesnt matter.
I got done for my "skyline" and i checked it out. Lawyer said its just like a spelling mistake. sad but true.
Ashley Leach
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Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 04:59 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Gary Poloskei wrote on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 02:36 pm:

my turbos have 10 gears. and i change them with telekenesis.


Drew Rechner
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Scott Gates wrote on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 09:04 pm:

Yeah i think the hobos in town will be fighting over the bins now.lol




Funny that, I have seen about 50 times more people looking in roadside bins for cans, good on em. Tax free income

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