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Ali Saeed
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 01:44 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i guess the thread title is pretty self explanatory...what to do first on a v8 exhaust..?
Ben Daniel
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 02:09 am, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do the whole lot in 1 go... but if you cant afford it, personally I would go a cat back twin 2.25" system with Rival mufflers and no hotdog resonators in between (they only steal from you that lovely exhaust note these V8's put out :-) ) then go a set of Rush headers (non supercharged unless you are planning to supercharge) with a set of high flor cats and a cross pipe.
Ali Saeed
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 03:07 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeh thinking of collecting all the components of the whole system before i go for the install...am i likely to get cats, mufflers cheaper online/internationally or something? or should i just buy locally
Ben Daniel
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 10:35 am, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for my Red TT soarer I purchased all my parts off Ebay, I got a 3" high flow cat for $129 and 2 rear 4" mufflers for $99 each. The trick is to find someone who will install it for you, most exhaust shops I went to got annoyed at the fact I didn't want to pay for their gear and just install mine. Mettams will do it for you, they are brilliant, a lot of people on here im sure will vouch for them.
Callum Finch
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 11:44 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always thought the extractors were the bottle neck in the exhaust for uzz's?
Ali Saeed
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 04:10 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i heard the cats they put on for compliance and the stock rear mufflers are the worst part of the exhaust..

ill have a look at ebay then ben..so..x pipe is a must apparently....?
Caleb Marsden
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 04:30 pm, by:  Caleb Marsden (Caleb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

genie just did my exhaust for me and they were brilliant. very happy with the end product. only problem is they quoted me 1600 buck for a hi-flow cat and two cannons and another 1000 for pipe work and labour. i went onto the x-force site and got the cat and cannons for 600 bucks delivered to my door and then they installed it all and did the pipework and everything else. all up it came to 1600. i was bloody happy considering the closest quote was a bit over 2000. personally i buy everything off the net because 99% of the time it has been cheaper and then take it to a shop and just pay labour
Ben Daniel
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 05:42 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you still pay $1000 for pipework ??? Cause im sorry Caleb, if you did you got shafted buddy. On my TT I installed a set of lews dumps and took my mufflers and cat to mettams and they installed it all with stainless steel and mandrel bends for $250. If you shop around you can save yourself a lot of money. Heres a complete break down of my exhaust and the costs

Lews Dumps w/ 3" mid pipe - $990
2x N1 Performance 4" mufflers - $198
3" Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat - $129
Installed with 3" mandrel bent S/S - $250

Total - $1567.
Caleb Marsden
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 05:59 pm, by:  Caleb Marsden (Caleb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it was a 3' into 2.5' stainless with mandrels and i got dynoed in that price too and they had to make brackets for the cannons because they didn't come with them and a couple other things too. everywhere i went where quoting alot more than that for the same stainless system and i think i rang just about every exhaust shop in the yellow pages
Caleb Marsden
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 06:03 pm, by:  Caleb Marsden (Caleb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

plus i knew it wasn't gonna be cheap coz they have such a good name and guarentee that if you don't like it they change it. so considering they gave me the cheapest quote i think they were the best way i could have gone, plus i'm bloody happy with the system as it looks and sounds brilliant
Ali Saeed
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 09:12 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is this the one you got ben?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/magnaflow-3-inch-high-flow-catalytic-converter-3-cat_W0QQitemZ200327129366QQc mdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item200327129366&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318
Caleb Marsden
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 09:23 pm, by:  Caleb Marsden (Caleb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

theres an x-force 3" universal hi-flow cat on
http://justjap.com/store/home.php?cat=275 which is what i got and there's some cannons and mufflers on http://justjap.com/store/home.php?cat=316. i used the x-force 2.5" inlet cannon and i am 100% happy with the looks and sound of them. thought i'd just give ya a couple more options
Ben Daniel
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 10:16 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im not 100% sure Ali... it was a while ago but yeah, was definately a magnaflow and I paid $129 for it, not $179 but even still, $179 is a good price.
Ali Saeed
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 11:03 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeh not really into cannons caleb..more into oval shapped ones...but the cat looks decent..

also bit off topic, but how much better are tt brakes compared to v8...rob rojos got some for 200 bucks..sounds cheap as....
Ben Daniel
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 11:06 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Save up and get yourself a set of Supra 4 pots. They are excellent.
Ali Saeed
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Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 11:22 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeh was just having a look at those....apparently i need to get wheels which clear the calipers...wonder if they would fit in my current wheels
Phil Gibson
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:55 am, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh the TT brakes are adequate but for really good, confidence-inspiring brakes you should look at the Supra or Celsior 4-pots, they are so much better

The only catch with them is you need 17" wheels minimum and even then you still need to check they have enough clearance (many do not)

AS far as exhausts go, if you just want a nice V8 sound then a simple cat-back system will do, however if you also want to improve performance somewhat you will need to get a set of extractors(headers) and cats as well.

A cat-back system alone will not improve performance much

Bear in mind that there is a fair amount of labour involved in fitting headers, a lot more than the rest of the exhaust system
Ali Saeed
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 01:37 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so supra vs celsior brakes...
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 02:06 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Celsior brakes are lighter.
Ali Saeed
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 07:16 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so apparently abs doesnt work with supra brakes..is that much of an issue?
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 07:30 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Peter Nitschke wrote on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 02:06 pm:

Celsior brakes are lighter.



Cheaper too.
Phil Gibson
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 10:22 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ABS will not be affected - the sensor is inside the hub and has nothing to do with the brake rotor or caliper that you would be replacing

If you do decide to go the Celsior/Supra route, it is a good idea to upgrade the rear brakes to the TT size (assuming you dont get the rear Celsior/Supra brakes)
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 10:33 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I might have my supra brakes up for sale soon, both the 4 piston fronts and 2 piston rears. I'll keep you posted.
Ali Saeed
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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 10:44 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you upgrading ben? yeh if i convert, ill go for full, ie front and rears

can you guys list ALL the parts i need to successfully complete the upgrade

thanks in advance
Phil Gibson
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 12:38 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rotors, pads, calipers, thats it

bottle of brake fluid when you bleed them

wheels that fit, or spacers to make em fit :-)
Ali Saeed
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 04:59 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think my wheels should fit, theres heaps of space both front and back...i can probably put the brakes on myself ..?
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 07:12 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also get steel braided brakelines, they make a huge difference.

Im upgrading to D2 8 Piston fronts and 6 Piston rears, I was toying with the idea of putting the brakes on my V8 soarer but I still have stocko rims and would have to get some decent ones put on there...

Bare in mind dude, I change my mind daily so yeah, can't guarantee it.
Ali Saeed
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 08:48 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha so do i. yeh ive got a progressive upgrade idea in my mind now. bushes first, then exhaust then brakes. but if i find cheap brake parts then i might get those along the way. also, better to get oem supra kit or an aftermarket kit? i assume aftermarket is better, but more expensive?
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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 08:54 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha.. OEM for sure, the D2 brakes i'm getting are the cheapest after market brake set I could find for the supra (keeping quality in mind too) and they are $3200 for the set.

If i was to sell my complete Supra 4/2 brake set I would be chasing close to $1300.
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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 02:08 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make sure you fit new copper washers so the brake hoses seal properly.

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