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Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 145
Reg: 05-2006
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Kyle Wathen wrote on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 09:05 pm:Just browsing VSI #8 under Vehicle Standards Information on the Vicroads link, they could quite easily do you for the wing and neons under points 16 & 17.
The wing fits in another catagory where it has to be in the limits and it is. It cant be 150mm wider than the car and its not so its legal. (It's 130mm)
(I've already been tried by this and again no fines)
As for the neons there are no laws against them. The only law is the colours. Cant be red on the front or white on the back. If you want blue, green, purple, orange, gold, aqua, or whatever then you can.
All those rules say about lights that are suppose to be there(EG; headlights and turning lights), nothing about extra lights like underbody neons or internal neons. |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 146
Reg: 05-2006
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Ryan Rankovic wrote on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 05:25 pm:i would think that with strobing red and blue globes are illegal because it would make your car look like its a police car. not for having the globes themselves.
Well, maybe but its still legal to have whatever colour lights inside the car as you want.
I highly doubt a FSG Soarer will ever be fined for "impersonating a police car". It's just a joke to the courts and will be thrown out. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 204
Reg: 07-2009
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Rik I know for a fact cars get prosecuted for this. I've put in the paper work on a few. (red/blue inner neons)
Need you help though, I'm trying to find the legislation that says it is ok to have lights under your car.
The closest I can kind find is "Lights not to be used to dazzle other road users" .. which is purely the discretion of an Police member |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 205
Reg: 07-2009
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Sorry reread what you had to say and you are argueing that there is no legislation around this so it is not illegal right?
I'm gonna make some phone calls. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 206
Reg: 07-2009
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I called a mate in TMU .. the answer to the issue on external lights is....
Perfectly legal, provided these facts. No RED, WHITE or BLUE. You can not see the globe itself.
You can only see the REFLECTED LIGHT onto the ground. |
Ross Pesina
TryHard
Vic
Soarer T, Supra TT, Z32 TT
Posts: 267
Reg: 08-2006
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Great work Jol! I've been trying to find this out for ages and could never get a straight answer. My mate used to have some on his EVO. He got pulled over by a cop once, only to tell him he thinks it looks good. |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 147
Reg: 05-2006
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The laws say no red on front, no white on back and in Victoria you can have any other colour you like so blue is ok in Vic. QLD you cant have blue.
As for the dazzle it comes down to the judge as I would take it all the way to court. As there is a neon called dazzle I would argue as I dont have those neons in my car. As the colour is constant, not flashing, not fading, not changing then how can it be classed as dazzling.
As for the red/blue inside neons I would also take that to court as there is no law about the colour of neons inside the car. As there is no law you cant fine people for it.
Inside my car I have blue and UV neons. Outside I have multi-colour but I choose 1 colour and drive with that colour on. Usually aqua as its the brightest.
I use to have really bright blue neons that lit up trees and never was pulled over when I had those ones. They were always on when I had them.
I found out this law when I got my first neons nearly 7 years ago. the shop gave me a photocopy of the laws but I never knew where it was from but everytime a cop tries anything I show him and he leaves me alone as thats the law and he cant fine me for something thats legal. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 209
Reg: 07-2009
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Rik I agree with everything you said except the Blue externals. Only reason I disagree is because I spoke directly to the TMU themselves. Whether they are right or wrong is beside the point, I know these coppers and if they think its sus then they will find a way to pinp you for it.
Anyway, I was thinking Hot Pink under car - I know it's a little girly, but done right it recon it would look sweet as. |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 148
Reg: 05-2006
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I was going to get pink to start with as its the brightest of all the colours and it stands out the most. a White Soarer with pink neons would also look good. (I got a white one) but I went for blue.
Look at the movie 2 Fast 2 Furious. The pink neons outglow the others.
Cops are pricks. They will try but when you say you will take them to court then they usually back off. The last time I did that at a cop I was yelling at him and he backed off, not me. I was ready to have him charged for harassment. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 213
Reg: 07-2009
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Rik, Can i have a scanned copy of doc you got given witht he las regarding lighting. I wanan pass it by TMU and make sure it is still legit.
Thing is law of averages says if its a rice cracker, has lights, looks expensive the person driving most likely has something sus about the car or using it for no good.
You do know I am a police analyst yeah? 
Also driving around on the week with my 7 year old in the car I was pointing out the two types of Soarers.
Type one: stock rims, unwashed, not lowered, no tint.
Type two: Larger rims, Clean car, lowered, nice tint.
One of these types waves to you, the other doesn't. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10788
Reg: 11-2004
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Jol Alexander wrote on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 02:37 pm: you got given witht he las regarding lighting. I wanan pass it by..
Jol Alexander wrote on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 02:37 pm:You do know I am a police analyst yeah?
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Andrew Duaso
TryHard
Victoria
V8
Posts: 266
Reg: 02-2009
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Quite often the police themselves don't know the letter of the law. And I doubt many know the vehicle modification guidelines and this and that.
I was once told I'm going to have to sticker you for them wheels. BS I called it and I have the guidelines here in the glovebox, needless to say no sticker but the dogs reported me to the EPA for excessive noise. It passed!
Jol the clean car with nice wheels screams drug dealer or terroist to me. I mean who in this country can affort a 6k car and keep it clean and tidy. The unwashed worn out stocker on bald tyres with the rust unrepaired accident damage and exhaust leak screams Aussie battler, let's just leave him alone. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 216
Reg: 07-2009
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Peter if you're a go at my typing or spelling.. best not too man, i've got a flu so bad i can barely see the screen |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10789
Reg: 11-2004
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 Better than being pissed at the keyboard! |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 149
Reg: 05-2006
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My car is tint, looks lowered, wing, dirty with stock wheels and accident damage so where do I fit in?
I use to wave but 1 out of 50 wave back so I don't bother anymore unless they wave first.
The thing I got is a fax copy and its about 6 years old so I doubt its readable now. Wasn't the last time I looked at it but in the dark it still works against the cops. I did read the same thing from the VicRoads site so its there somewhere. Cant remember where...
Police analyst? Whats that? Don't you know the cops these days don't know the laws. They guess and usually guess wrong. A court knows the laws and as I've researched and found where my car is legal in the laws the cops cant touch me. Also My car is Regged in QLD and that's way too much of a hassle for the cops, that's another reason I'm left alone. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 219
Reg: 07-2009
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Rik - an op member is unlikely to know the ins and out of transport laws, a TMU member will though. It all comes down to specialities.
Peter: Amen! - still crook though  ..wish I was pissed at the keyboard! |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 150
Reg: 05-2006
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If a cop doesn't know the laws then how can they fine people with breaking them?
They should go learn the laws they want to fine people for.
Even the TMU doesn't know the laws. The cop I use to fight with he didn't know till I told him. BTW he was in the TMU |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 225
Reg: 07-2009
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Rik - truthfully its because the police don't write the rules they try and enforce them to the best of there knowledge. I don't want to defend cops (seems I always am). I recon the TMU overall knows a lot about cars .. but when it comes down to certain areas (i.e. imports).
Rik... pm me his name if you would be so kind .. i'm curious to see if i know him |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 151
Reg: 05-2006
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I don't know his name. All I know about him is he's left the force now. He use to be the a-hole from Knox. The fat TMU cop.
Last I heard is he had lots of complaints against him as he booked everyone for the smallest thing and I wasn't the only one that proved him wrong.
His replacement tried to get me for the wing till he saw the QLD plates then he left in a huff as I again proved him wrong.
That was about 4 months ago. Still waiting to see him again. The next time I wont be as nice. I found a few more laws they wont like me to know.
http://www.trafficlaw.com.au/your.rights.html#silence |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 227
Reg: 07-2009
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Know had a clean up recently, they are also the ones i called to confirm the legalities of under car light... who knows .. maybe the bloke i spoke too (who said it was kosher) is someone that you've had a run in with and he learnt his lesson .. life is funny like that |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
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Posts: 152
Reg: 05-2006
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Probably. the neons laws that Knox knows I told them. hehehe.
I've called 3 times trying to confirm the laws and each time get a different cop and all didn't know. So I told them and they agreed it sounds about right.
That was about 6 years ago so I guess its the law now.
Knox has been needing a cleanup for a while. The cops here are crap.
In the last 6 years (Since I've had the Soarer) I've been pulled over about 8 times all without ever getting a fine. I call it harassment more than anything. It's only 8 I know but if I was doing nothing wrong then why are they pulling me over?
The only good cop I know the name of at Knox is Hallet. (I think that's how you spell it?)
He's nice to me and I've helped him out so I'm on his good side. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 231
Reg: 07-2009
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I know a Hallet at Boronia RTTU (dorset road) .. this is probably the bloke. He is not TMU. Senior Connie |
Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 153
Reg: 05-2006
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So he's been moved. Yea, thats him. He use to be at knox.
He knows about as much as the TMU officers did. |
Ryan Rankovic
Goo Roo
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL
Posts: 1382
Reg: 07-2005
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spotted a... oops, wrong thread 
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Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
V8
Posts: 260
Reg: 07-2009
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** Spotted - Green Soarer - nice clean paint job **
Location: Out the window of the Belgrave/Lilydale train before the bridge at Richmond infront of a VLine/Connex shed. Very odd place to park your car dude! |
Ken Yo
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8 SC400
Posts: 95
Reg: 08-2009
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I wonder who this belongs to, took it a good 5 years ago.
SIFU I believe means "Master" in Chinese. |
Jol Alexander
TryHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 286
Reg: 07-2009
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Spotted : White Uzz31 (Lexux 400) Vermont South Coles STAFF car park. Very clean.
Good looking car! |
Ken Yo
TryHard
Victoria
V8 SC400
Posts: 105
Reg: 08-2009
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Spotted: White soarer driving down Dodd Street, SOUTHBANK at 8.10am. Nice |
Ryan Rankovic
Goo Roo
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL
Posts: 1411
Reg: 07-2005
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saw a bluey silver 94+ going down Hume Drive the other day, had the plates TIGS, female driver.
yesterday saw a mint red 97 turning onto clayton road coming from monash uni. looked awesome. he saw me and did a double take of my number plates |
Ross Spataro
TryHard
victoria
uzz31
Posts: 460
Reg: 09-2005
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saw a nice gold one with a spoiler kit going through Swan Hill last weekend when i was working there... |
Ken Yo
TryHard
Victoria
V8 SC400
Posts: 232
Reg: 08-2009
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Spotted a nice Green Soarer with a nice V8 exhaust waiting at the lights corner Sturt and Kings Way, SOUTHBANK.
Plates: TIC 644 |
Marc Hoffmann
Tinkerer
Vic
Soarer TT
Posts: 64
Reg: 07-2009
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spotted a slightly dirty orange soarer with a rather large T wing at VU exams today.
been seeing a few soarers around recently |
Sean Routledge
DieHard
Victoria
V8 Limited
Posts: 646
Reg: 07-2008
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I see at least five a day, and three out of those five are usually in shocking condition. |
Andrew Duaso
TryHard
Victoria
V8
Posts: 426
Reg: 02-2009
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i seen this awesome soarer, really really dirty but i cbf cleaning it everyday, look at the bugs on the front bar
would be super awesome with a turbo
someone wanna gimmie some money or a free turbo kit
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Rik Garth
TryHard
Victoria / Queensland
TT
Posts: 155
Reg: 05-2006
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That ain't dirty. I don't have a garage to keep mine in anymore so it gets covered in crap and I haven't cleaned it for months now. It's so dirty if I parked it in front of a pile of dirt it would blend in.
It's suppose to be white but I'm not sure atm... |
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