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Shane Ilich
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Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:54 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Phil Gibson wrote on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:53 am:

Pump up your tyres beforehand! few extra psi doesnt hurt either...





Callum Finch wrote on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 10:58 pm:

Luke, i think the idea with increasing the air pressure is to decrease their grip effectiveness, so you get more spinz0rz and break traction easier.




Phil, I'll leave right of reply to yourself here...

with just 3 words from myself - "slip angle theory"...
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:53 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doing track days on street tyres without extra pressure - on a heavy car, you will rip the shoulders of the tyres pretty noticeably.

I would suggest go 45-48 psi, but that is just based on my own experience in summer on a hot track. If the car slips around too much, you can always drop the pressure until you get it feeling about right. Or enjoy the spins :-)
Phil Gibson
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:17 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep what Peter said.

higher tyre pressure = better handling response, less heat buildup, less wear

The downside is too high a pressure = less grip and rougher ride :-)

But generally speaking the rule of thumb seems to be for track days and hard driving - extra 5-10psi, but you probably wanna keep it under 50, and dont blame me if you blow up tyres :D
Ken Cornell
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:38 pm, by:  Ken Cornell (Dunadan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nooo.. I've just come down with a cold or something. My head is killing... but I don't wanna miss this. I'll try and be there
Don Bagnall
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:43 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken, just get some Honey, Scotch, & Stones Green Ginger wine............mix/blend and imbibe, 1 large glass should do it, and won't put ya over the limit
Ken Cornell
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:03 pm, by:  Ken Cornell (Dunadan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought you were off the scotch?? I think I have Honey, that's all I got of that list. Took 4 Advil about 1 & 1/2 hours ago, starting to work!
Don Bagnall
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 06:08 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't drink Scotch, I drank Bourbon & Coke......and I'm still not drinking......Yay me!
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 06:41 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was wondering how that was all going, glad that you are still a happening sort of guy then :-)
Shane Ilich
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 07:33 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soarers do not make a good off-road vehicle...
Alfred Heng
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 07:40 pm, by:  Alfred Heng (Alfred) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys and Sam

It was great meeting most of you again and and some for the first time.

I would like to thank Luke for putting this together. I had a great day and learned quite abit. It was really great fun and I wouldn't mind doing this again.

Those of you who took pictures, please post them up.

Cheers

Alfred
Paul Brockbank
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 08:34 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh good on ya' Luke, nice choice of tracks as well.

I had a lot of fun, have now totally killed those tyres, coming home was interesting...

Anyone got those times? Can you post them up? Was first time I'd done a timed thing, was awesome.

Love to see some shots from the day!

Good to meet you all as well.
Shane Ilich
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 08:58 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I've been assured that there was noone who captured the "off-road incident" on film...PICS!! MOVIES!!

Was good to meet those of you I hadnt before, and to catch up with those I have.

Big ups to Lue for organising the day, certainly learned a lot about what to do (and what not to), and I'm sure I wasnt the only one. Phil, I noticed you were going particularly hard, and you seemed to be getting better/smoother across the day.

Was nice to finally give this new setup of mine a decent thrashing.

And I didnt even break anything!
Callum Finch
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 09:43 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was a great day, i concur!

Big ups to Lue for arranging it, thanks buddy! ;D

I had a whole lot of fun even if i did suck =P
Luke Nieuwhof
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:17 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers guys, hey Callum you had one of the fastest times at the end of the day so the softly softly approach paid off.

I made a bit of a dill of myself within the first few seconds when the shift kit caught me out but made sure that didn't happen again hehe. Was certainly good to learn the limits of what you can do, I was surprised at how much the Soarers do tend to hand the tail out. Its not what I'd call drifting but they do powerslide a bit!

I think Daniel had the times as his mate was getting them down, cheers to him.

I didn't take a single photo all day though! doh! I think Travis got quite a few though.

And Shane, great off, get that vacuum cleaner out!
Phil Gibson
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:23 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seconding the greatness :-)

I just thought, i couldve borrowed one of the digi video cameras & tripod from work - my camera didnt really cut it Sam, not enough zoom. There were a couple of ok pics, nothing too exciting though, i'll put em up soon.

Oh well, next time i'll bring a work camera so we dont miss any Shane moments

And yeah that was heaps of fun, next time for a comparison/laugh i'll try jacking teh suspension up and turning tems off...
Tom Kneebone
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Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 11:50 pm, by:  Tom Kneebone (Tomk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep Good Day, onya luke for you're efforts it's always good to see what you're car can / will do at the edge of the envelope.
Robin Giles
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:15 am, by:  Robin Giles (Rob) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great Day even though I think I needed more practice. Thanks to Luke for organising it.
Alfred Heng
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:03 pm, by:  Alfred Heng (Alfred) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robin - Think we all need practice! Eric in his UZ30 was the fastest of the V8s by about 2 seconds! I think he turned in about the fastest times of the all Soarers as well. Very smooth driving.

Phil - you car really sounds sweet. I must admit that I did not get to hear the other V8s there as the rest of us ran together and I was the last of the batch.

Luke - Is your car electric or what? It is so quiet! It was the quietest car there by far.

Travis - Switch off the Traction Control!

Let's do this again!
Callum Finch
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:25 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Alfred, i think you need to make your horn button smaller! ;D
Phil Gibson
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:57 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



ELECTRIC-POWERED CAR AWARD - Luke's TT

HOTTEST TT SOUND AWARD - Travis

HOTTEST HORN SOUND AWARD - Alfred

UNUSUALLY HIGH TYRE WEAR AWARD - Paul, runnerup Luis

WOW HE'S QUICK AWARD, TT - Tom

WOW HE'S QUICK AWARD, V8 - Eric

NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, OHSHIT350HORSEPOWER AWARD - Shane

NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, OHSHIT400HORSEPOWER AWARD - The guy in the GTR

"I LIKE CONES" AWARD - Dan C.

HIGHSPEED ACCIDENTAL LAWNDIGS AWARD - Shane


Bring on the pics!
Shane Ilich
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:15 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Phil Gibson wrote on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:57 pm:

NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, OHSHIT350HORSEPOWER AWARD - Shane

NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, OHSHIT400HORSEPOWER AWARD - The guy in the GTR




NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, OHSHITWHEELSPINTHROUGH3RDAND4TH AWARD - Jarrad in Rays silvia

Where are the pics??

And please tell me somoeone knows how to get in touch with those hatchi boys to get video of the day??
Luke Nieuwhof
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:21 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aw my TT is just shy....its probably the legit 40,000kms that makes it so quiet, all of yours are ragged!
Paul Brockbank
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:08 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahaha thats hilarious Phil.

Went out last night in the rain with the triangles still on the rear, went round a corner in Freo at about 15km/h off the throttle and it slid out haha

What was Eric's time?? I was under the impression Phil was the fastest of the V8's by far?
Adam Barry
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:20 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Paul Brockbank wrote on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:08 pm:

I was under the impression Phil was the fastest of the V8's by far?


So was I - word was that his last run of the day was the fastest of everyone.
Paul Brockbank
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Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 04:03 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh think he did a 44.06 or something? I think my best time was a 44.66? Then I think it was Tom with the manual TT was pulling high 44's?

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