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Steve Nolan
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 11:14 am, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if the Australian Govenment could be accused of "Insider Trading"
when it comes to the selling of their Telstra Shares.?

David Vaughan
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 11:24 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that just rhetorical? If it is a real question, the answer is that there is no information which suggests insider trading in relation to the previous two tranches and the third tranche has not been sold yet so no insider trading activity has (yet) occurred there.

More serious is evidence of the majority shareholder putting pressure on management to act to inflate the price, especially where that shareholder intends to sell.

Nearly as serious is the possibility that management may act to deflate the shares in the period which sets the base for their performance measurement for future personal bonuses.

For the record I do not own Telstra shares.
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 11:39 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There also now appears to be a serious issue about disclosure that ASIC is going to investigate.
Steve Nolan
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 11:40 am, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi David.
No not rhetorical, I am just curious !
It is just when you hear of people getting banged up for buying/selling or manipulating shares whilst using privalidged information not available to every shareholder, the govenment don't seem to be doing any different.

Not that I care,

I don't have shares in Telstra either and very few in the Govenment.

Steve Nolan
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 11:42 am, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey there Peter.
The board is comming along real nice..

But don't the Govenment control ASIC.?

All very independant but where do they get their funding ?

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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 11:58 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Theoretically the govt has no control as such over ASIC, and I suspect that if it did, they would not have allowed the investigation.

I have no Telstra shares, and I don't think Telstra should be sold.

As I see it, the economy is rolling along pretty well, so why is the govt so intent on the sale?

Possible reasons.
1) There is a huge budget blackhole that they want to fill before it becomes visible.
2) They want to repay all the big business clients that may have helped them out previously.
3) They believe that Telstra really will drop seriously in value as landlines become more redundant and mobile technology takes over.

I personally can't think of a single example where we the people have benefitted from the sale of publicly owned enterprises, despite all the hype about efficiency etc.

In SA, the water has been privatised. Our costs have gone up. Electricity has been privatised. Our costs have gone up very significantly. There are other examples.

Even de-regulating the Commonwealth bank has contributed to us all paying outrageous bank fees as there is no longer a bank with a reasonable base line on fees that the other banks have to compete with.

This is all pretty simplistic, and just a 3 minute rant, others with more knowledge can probably add a lot more interesting information.

Or should we avoid discussing such issues in case some people get upset? :-)
Don Bagnall
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 12:31 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah.....buggar it......Fight ya barstard's, I hate peace
Benny Gammelmark
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Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 04:18 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I coudn't agree more Peter. I've seen it all happen in Denmark as well.

Privatisation for the short-term gain in government coffers followed by more private donations to the party that did it.

It makes you sick.

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