Soarer Central: Archive through March 01, 2007

Soarer Central Off-Topic Real Engineering Archive through March 01, 2007

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Greg Nikitiuk
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Celsior

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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 01:03 pm, by: Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr)

Alen Sadikovic
Tinkerer
VIC
Soarer GTT

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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 01:15 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

nnooowww that is a car

....nice rim but

Mike Bradberry
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UnLimited

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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 06:19 pm, by: Mike Bradberry (Halflife)

What is that, an acrylic wheel or what? How long will that last, stay clean etc? Of course it's show only, but even so.

Ben Lipman
TryHard
NSW
Soarer TT manual

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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 07:33 pm, by: Ben Lipman (Ben12a)

you'd wanna have bloody impressive brakes but...

Nathan Evans
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Queensland
1JZZ30 TT

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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 11:29 am, by: Nathan Evans (Soarer7)

I bet those wheels are cheap,

Sean Tusler
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NSW
JZZ30 TT

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 10:08 am, by: Sean Tusler (Viperlover55)

Now thats impressive

Cihan Aday
Goo Roo
Plug-in Emanage's - Now Available - Tuned to spec
JZZ30

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 05:17 pm, by: Cihan Aday (Cihan)

Nice concept though, just don't think it's viable for anything but car shows.

If people can snap solid rims into 5 pieces running slicks, *plastic* held together by 8mm studs has no chance, even on a ford festiva that runs factory cheese cutters.

In light of that, i'd call this a waste of time rather than engineering. Wheres the stress leniency in that lol

Joseph D'Agostino
Tinkerer
Victoria
JZZ30

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 05:48 pm, by: Joseph D'Agostino (Mia)

Here's some info from the invertor
http://www.cartv.com/content/research/channels/index.cfm/channel/cartv_video/action/showvideo/vid/e_0300/vscat/SEMA/vcat/Event/

Greg Nikitiuk
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 10:35 pm, by: Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr)

Nice video Joseph

Luke Nieuwhof
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WA
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 07:30 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Cihan Aday wrote on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 05:17 pm:
Nice concept though, just don't think it's viable for anything but car shows.

If people can snap solid rims into 5 pieces running slicks, *plastic* held together by 8mm studs has no chance, even on a ford festiva that runs factory cheese cutters.

In light of that, i'd call this a waste of time rather than engineering. Wheres the stress leniency in that lol

Cihan, where's the love? <3

Cihan Aday
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 12:05 pm, by: Cihan Aday (Cihan)

Maybe i am losing 'the love'

Too ••••• bad

These rims are stupid!
Probably commissioned by some bo-zo with too much money and not enough sense

Tim Appleton
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QLD
UZZ31

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 01:03 pm, by: Tim Appleton (Timbo)

LOL!!! I'm with Cihan. That's not engineering, that's just plain wank factor!!!

Oh, and what happens when your "bloody impressive brakes" get hot due to the lack of ventilation, and start melting your plastic wheels?

Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 01:34 pm, by: Peter Nitschke (Pen)

Plus there isn't as much stress on everything while the wheels are spinning like in the video.

Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 03:29 pm, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

2" thick pollycarb - it's not going to break. It will get ugly pretty quick though, unless you are totally anal about cleaning.

Miles Baker
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 03:36 pm, by: Miles Baker (Milesb)

Recent post on another board:

We had rain a few days ago & these idiots just refuse to slow down. Result was a 9 car freeway crash w/ 2 cars on their top. 6 of the cars & trucks all had aftermarket billet wheels- like 17"-20" spoke designs. The scary part was this all happened right in front of me & nearly all of those wheels had failures. All you could see was wheels bouncing everywhere- something like 14 of them flying in every direction- including over the wall & into oncoming traffic! All of them seemed to break in same spot- right where spoke meets hub. After seeing that- I'd have 2nd thoughts running a wheel like that.
Scary stuff! If I had camera with me, I would have snapped wheel pics.

So it would seem that a lot of metal wheels are no safer.. at least those are solid. I would have thought they'd have gone down well here?

Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 04:30 pm, by: Peter Nitschke (Pen)

In a crash, all bets are off. It's wheel breaking from driving or track day stress that would bother me.

Having to remove the wheels to clean the brake dust off all the time would also me a nuisance.

When you look at that video, they don't really stand out that much except when you get the reflection off them at some angles.

Tim Appleton
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:29 pm, by: Tim Appleton (Timbo)

Hehe, there's only three of us complaining so far.

Polycarbonate has quite high impact resistance. 2" thick polycarbonate is plenty strong enough at normal temperatures. Hub centre attachment - can't be as strong as the polycarbonate. I just have serious reservations about something that deflects under load at 140 degrees C being attached to brakes that have hit 500 degrees C while rolling down a mountain.

And if it takes a 9 car pile-up to destroy billet wheels then I'd have no issues with them. The billet wheel probably weighs less than the plastic centre.

I suppose if this thread was titled "Real Bling Wheels" then I wouldn't be commenting. You could engineer them out of wood if you really wanted to.

Dave Hart
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Waikato
UZZ32

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:47 pm, by: Dave Hart (Davyboy)

Tim Appleton wrote on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:29 pm:
You could engineer them out of wood if you really wanted to.

That wood be nice.

Ben Lipman
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Soarer TT manual

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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 06:56 pm, by: Ben Lipman (Ben12a)

I take it I'm the only one who baulks at US$8000 for a set of wheels with no tyres? I can think of much better ways to spend about ten thousand bucks...

Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 06:34 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

From what I remember, the US has no actual safety standards when it comes to wheel manufacturing - not like Europe anyway.

Miles Baker
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Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 09:56 am, by: Miles Baker (Milesb)

Peter Nitschke wrote on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 04:30 pm:
In a crash, all bets are off. It's wheel breaking from driving or track day stress that would bother me.

I dunno mate, I reckon crash safety is a pretty important thing. Otherwise why not remove your airbag, and make the steering column solid? I'd seriously prefer having my wheels NOT go flying off in a crash.

And honestly, I can't imagine that many wheels being impacted in order to break off. I'd imagine that many of them just BROKE off due to the stresses of sliding and braking hard sideways. That *is* dangerous at the track. Are there any crash stress tests done on aftermarket wheels? Plus, what if someone else stacked and their wheel bounced across the road into you?

All bets are not off in a crash. That's the most important time.

Miles Baker
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Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 10:00 am, by: Miles Baker (Milesb)

Tim Appleton wrote on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:29 pm:
And if it takes a 9 car pile-up to destroy billet wheels then I'd have no issues with them

I would! Granted I think you mean from an ownership/replacement point of view. I mean from a "oh sh!t i'm about to stack and my wheels have snapped off" point of view. You can't brake any more if your wheels are gone. Also the "some guy on the other side of the street crashed and his wheel bounced across and hit me in the face" point of view.