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Rob Horton
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 10:49 am, by: Rob Horton (Robjhorton)

Not sure if this has been posted before but i couldn't find it if it has.

For anyone asking the question "Is this repairable?" here is your answer...
http://www.mat.fi/project1984toyotacelicaturbo.htm

Ben Daniel
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 12:24 pm, by: Ben Daniel (Lexustt)

Wow... that took some time

freakin awesome but !

David Vaughan
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 12:25 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

...and for anyone asking "Why?", here is your answer...

...I have no ••••••• idea

Phil Gibson
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 01:30 pm, by: Phil Gibson (Sciflyer)

I do

That is one of the original TTE WRC Group B Celica Turbo rally cars, which makes it very rare and worth going to so much trouble to restore

Multiple WRC champion Juha Kankkunen is in one of the pics, it could well be his

Nice find

Peter Burrett
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 07:58 pm, by: Peter Burrett (Burrett)

but you could just have migrated the build plates onto a less of a basket case.... to suggest that that is now the "original" Celica after the amount of replacement that occurred is a bit like my grandfather's hammer....it's been in the family for 120 years, had seven new shafts and three new heads, but it's Granpa's hammer....get real! This is a result of unreal prices being paid for cars with quite questionable provenance...rant over!

Phil Gibson
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 10:59 pm, by: Phil Gibson (Sciflyer)

These kind of money-no-object restorations are not that unusual, besides you would need to pull apart the original anyway to duplicate the one-off rally modifications (its not as if there would be any plans or anything else to copy off), so its not any harder and more authentic to just rebuild it

Callum Finch
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Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:18 am, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

I'd prolly say that even a "less of a basket case" would be completely stripped and rebuilt also.
Ever seen some of the restorations Chip Foose does? ;)

Its not about making _THE_ORIGINAL_ new again, its about restoring the original car back to its former glory.

Daniel Czechowski
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Monday, May 21, 2007 - 11:55 am, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Nice! I clicked through every single photo, very interesting! Lots of work though, dang!

Callum Finch
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Monday, May 21, 2007 - 02:22 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

Daniel Czechowski wrote on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 11:55 am:
ots of work though, dang!

Is your finger sore from all that clicking?

Daniel Czechowski
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Monday, May 21, 2007 - 03:22 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Callum Finch wrote on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 02:22 pm:
Is your finger sore from all that clicking?

Haha, nope. This is nothing compared to what I sometimes do with that finger!!

Callum Finch
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Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:42 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

Pick your nose? Gross.

Daniel Czechowski
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Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:50 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Hahahaaahah, not exactly lol!

Aaron Mead
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Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 04:20 pm, by: Aaron Mead (Aaron)

That was really good. It wouldnt be the same if you migrated teh plates at all. It wouldnt be the car that Kankunnen and Crazy George raced. Kinda like the Winfield R32 GTR.

That build up part where the decals are reproduced from scanned originals reminds me of puttin together my tamiya rally car models!

Peter Burrett
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Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 06:27 pm, by: Peter Burrett (Burrett)

Well, I'm in the minority.... a bit surprising, 'cos I know I'm a wanker, but I still don't buy the idea that replacing 99% of the shell, chassis, suspension and engine gives you the original car. What's the difference between the build plates being the only bit you don't replace, and migrating the build plates to another shell.... beats me (which reminds me, I'm a wanker!!)

Daniel Czechowski
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Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 06:39 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Peter Burrett wrote on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 06:27 pm:
Well, I'm in the minority.... a bit surprising, 'cos I know I'm a wanker, but I still don't buy the idea that replacing 99% of the shell, chassis, suspension and engine gives you the original car. What's the difference between the build plates being the only bit you don't replace, and migrating the build plates to another shell.... beats me (which reminds me, I'm a wanker!!)

Looks like I'm in the minority as well then

Callum Finch
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Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 09:21 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

It doesn't give you the original car, but it feels closer to the original than a better quality one to start the restoration with.

Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 06:41 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Isn't it more of a "because it can be done" type of situation? For the challenge and all that? No, I don't totally understand it either, but I'd guess thats why.

Perry Morgan
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Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 07:15 am, by: Perry Morgan (Uzz32)

Peter Burrett wrote on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 06:27 pm:
but I still don't buy the idea that replacing 99% of the shell, chassis, suspension and engine gives you the original car.

Those bits not inc the chassis, but possibly motors as well, would no doubt have been replaced many times over during its racing career and I'm sure they would still have felt as though they were driving the same car. But I did enjoy the fact they salvaged as much as they could (like recoing the gauges etc).
I would have taken one look and assumed it was too far gone and could not be restored. But I would always be paranoid a little flicker of rust was gnawing away deep inside the car somewhere if it were mine haha.