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Dan McColl
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 03:43 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My little sister is convinced she wants a TF or TJ Magna for her first car ('96ish onwards I think).

I don't know anything about them so I was wondering if anyone knows anything about them, what problems they have and when, and what to look out for.
Leon Wright
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 04:44 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If close to the 100,000k service be careful either make sure it's been done or get it done. Timing belts have a habit of snapping. Also the plugs on one side of the motor a royal c%&t to change, have to pull the whole intake manifold off!! Best part of a grand to pay a mechanic to do it.
Dan McColl
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 05:10 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good info, Cheers.
Graham Dollisson
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 05:53 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My father had a 2000, 2001 and 2003 model. All great cars. He had nothing but glowing reports about them. The 6's are very economical for highway work. Another guy at work had a 97 model and was always saying how he never spent anything more than normal servicing costs and it had reasonably high mileage on it.

I'd own one!!

But, like Soarers.....you have to buy them on condition. Get it checked.
Maurice Diggler
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:16 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Leon Wright wrote on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 04:44 pm:

lso the plugs on one side of the motor a royal c%&t to change, have to pull the whole intake manifold off!! Best part of a grand to pay a mechanic to do it.


This is true, although seeing as you are such a nice brother, you would do all the servicing for her? :-)
Hayden Miller
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:27 pm, by:  Hayden Miller (Zero) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My old man had a 94 wagon and put nearly 300,000k's on it, never skipped a beat. Had a few minor issues along the way like any old car but it was great... real smooth to drive.
Thads Cooke
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:33 pm, by:  Thads Cooke (Thadz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The rear plugs are a pain to change but $1000 to get them done? The manifold does have to come off (actually the top half), but having done several of them, theres only an extra 1.5 or maybe 2 hours labour, plus $200 worth of platinum plugs involved.....

If she has to have a FWD V6 family car then Id prefer a maxima (a33 or J31) or a camry, although Ive got nothing specific against the Magna.
Leon Wright
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:48 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah the 100,000k service in it's entirety, and I said the best part of a grand.
Greg Nikitiuk
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 09:08 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 96 TE exec 3ltr.
Done 210000 with hardly any fuss.
I think they are most under rated cars on the market.
I'm happy with mine and considering what they are selling for....they are a bargain.

check the australian magna club for some good info
http://www.aussiemagna.com/
Greg Nikitiuk
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 09:13 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also Dan, at Fowles auctions 3 year old TJs with service history and less then 60000km go for approx $8K
Dan McColl
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 09:33 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All good info, Thanks guys.
My sister has about 6.5-7K all up to spend, so we'll see what we can find. Doesn't need it for a couple of months, but we'll keep an eye out if the right one comes up in the mean time.
Damian Ware
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Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 11:57 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan can I strongly suggest you stay away from this car mate.

If this is what she wants buy here a camry they are a 1000 times better car. Granted they have an additional purchase cost but you will more than make up for in the first 6 months of owning it.

I cant recommend camrys enough they are one of the best cars ever built except for the one with the huge arse (too heavy and the feel really underpowered). Just make sure you get the V6 you can pick up a good 1998 for about 7 to 8k.

If you really want the magna look out for everything, motor being the main thing.

Nissans are also pritty good, bit more sporty than a camry but they do brake the odd thing here and there. Just don't feel as solid as the camrys from my experience, just like a pulsar to corolla comparison.
Justin Hughes
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:51 am, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They're Front Wheel Drive too aren't they ??? - YUKKK !!!!!!!!
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:54 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, but she may not be buying it to smoke out burger joints :-)
Justin Hughes
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Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 06:49 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can only go on reports from friends - I have one engine reconditioner mate who won't touch any Mistsi with a ten foot pole because he hates their engines and thinks of all Japanese cars they have the poorest engineering, and several mates who have owned V3000's and Magnas who have had long strings of problems with them - mostly because they didn't know what to look for when buying a used car, in my opinion - but they clearly don't stand abuse as well as a Toyota or Nissan.
Perry Morgan
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 06:54 am, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We had a mid 90's magna given to us. Owned by my grandparents. EVERYTHING went wrong with it. They all seem to smoke too. Cv joints, valve stem seals, welsh plugs, water pump and on and on and on. I think it barely cracked the 100 000 before we just had to get rid of it. But it had heaps of go and was soo smooth. I too would look at the camrys. Great cars.
Jose-Antonio Castillo
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 07:53 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If she's going to insist on looking for a Magna might as well tell her to keep an eye out for a Verada, they should be similar in price (given that they are a couple of years old now) and feel a lot nicer than the normal whitefridge version.
Daniel Clarke
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 11:07 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Dad owns a 2001 Magna. Been going Great too. Funny though, he always gave Magnas CRAP since they came out, and now he owns one. 180,000km's and still going like new (surprisingly)

Oh and the whole $1,000 to change plugs? My best mate owns a workshop and changed my dads plugs in his Magna( Plenum removed and refitted) in less than 1 hour.

It is recommended to run Platinum PLugs in the Rear Bank so you wont have to change them so often. And run Normal coppers in the front 3, as they are so easy to change.
Adam Peterson
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 11:46 am, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dont Magnas have Astron engines - the same used in LG and Kelvinator fridges ?
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:10 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Clarke wrote on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 11:07 am:

It is recommended to run Platinum PLugs in the Rear Bank so you wont have to change them so often. And run Normal coppers in the front 3, as they are so easy to change.




Wouldn't that lead to unbalanced ignition? Even if the copper and platinum plugs are both in the same heat range they will still have different ignition properties.
Leon Wright
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:38 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depends on the cash flow situation, they run relatively well even with the different plugs. Not Ideal obviously though.

Daniel Clarke wrote on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 11:07 am:

Oh and the whole $1,000 to change plugs?


Read my post!

Leon Wright wrote on Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 08:48 pm:

Nah the 100,000k service in it's entirety, and I said the best part of a grand.


I said best part of $1000 ($700 or more) to do a full 100,000k service. Includes timing belts, plugs and all those other goodies that you should replace on that kind of service. Dependent on who you get to do the work. It is an ass of a job, one of my mechanic mates left the Mitsubishi dealership because he was sick of doing them

The cost may be lower then what I stated, but it's best to overshoot a little as who knows whats been done on the vehicle prior to purchase, so best have more cash available then really needed.
Leon Wright
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 12:42 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, my parents have had quite a few magna's over the years, brilliant cars! Go like the shower's never had any problems. I know a lot of people that have them and wouldn't hesitate recommending them. I'm a toyota man myself and you can't beat toyota reliability, but a well looked after Mitsubishi is nothing to be shy about.
Craig Webber
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Monday, February 12, 2007 - 02:10 pm, by:  Craig Webber (Soarr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok we have a 93 verda wagon 3,0ltr.
Coming up to 300,000 Ks ,it's been from one end of Australia to the other, and not one problem.
It just keep going, smooth to ride in handles well for a wagon, better then some might think given some commder,ford wanker's a run for there money through some tight coners.So as long as it been looked after by past owers it should be ok.Just like most cars.

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