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Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
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Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:45 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I was booked again tonight for speeding, which will put me back to 2 points left again for another 9 months. If your wondering, I was busted doing 74 in a 50 zone in my Mrs Hyundai Accent. Now I wasn't paying attention to my speed, and I take responsibility for that, but the thing that 5hits me the most is how I got done. Going down a hill (decent would be approx 30 degree slant) which really ticks me off.

Now my enquiry is can you be fined for speeding on a decent?? I wouldn't mind arguing this, I guess coppers would not be there if they were not allowed, but I have to ask the question anyway. If I have to take it on the chin and move on, I will, but would like some advice on this. Will most likely be calling a lawyer that deals with traffic infringements for some advice, if they can do anything it would be nice, but on the same note, I couldn't be bother spending loads of money for save myself 3 points and $238.
Miles Baker
DieHard
Vic
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 12:19 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've always wondered about representing yourself? I think the worst that can happen is you have to pay about $50 extra court costs. You might even luck out and get the police to drop it to 15 or 20 beforehand if they think you have a case?
Dave Billings
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Louisiana
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 12:54 am, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was always told that anybody who represents himself has a fool for a client!

Good luck mate!!Hopefully the copper wont show up for court and charges dismissed; at least thats the way it is out here!
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 06:46 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe if it was closer to 50 you'd have a chance of getting a judge on your side, but at 24KM/h over the limit, you must have known you were way, way over, and the judge would know that too.

I'd say just pay the fine and lay low for 9 months.
Luke Barnes
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 07:30 am, by:  Luke Barnes (Noddy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think you'll get too far as Matthew states.

On the same note Dave, I represented myself when i went to fight a Lisence Suspension. Just so long as you provide a Good Affit-Davit, a letter from your employer/s dress nice, be polite, and show that you knew you were being stupid, and sincerely sorry, then you stand a pretty good chance.

It also helps if you have a relatively clean record.

Hope it all works out Steven!
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 07:32 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As for the question about "can you be fined for speeding on a descent", yes, of course you can. Why do you think you have brakes? Do you also imagine you should drive through a red traffic light because the car does not stop by itself when you take your foot off the throttle?

You could go to court but I would not be surprised if the magistrate listened to your argument ("I wasn't paying attention to my speed") and invited the police to add dangerous or negligent driving to the charge sheet. He would be right, too.

Take your own advice Steven: take responsibility and move along. Also, next time pay attention please; I might be on the same piece of road as you.
Steven Nanevski
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New South Wales
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 10:15 am, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah if i was going to fight this, I wouldn't do it alone, make myself look like a bigger idiot, no thanks.

I will just take it on the chin and move on I think...
Cara Joseph
TryHard
victoria
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 12:07 pm, by:  Cara Joseph (Carasky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good idea steven as my bros girl friend tried to take it further and she was on a 45degree decent and about that much over she got a no deal from her lawyer she had to cop it on the chin and suffer for 6mths no license.
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 06:08 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steven Nanevski wrote on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 10:15 am:

Yeah if i was going to fight this, I wouldn't do it alone, make myself look like a bigger idiot, no thanks.

I will just take it on the chin and move on I think...




And your getting T3g's .......Hahahaha.....kiss your licence good by hahaha you can't handle an excel let alone a soarer......hahaha gutter boy!

Hahahahahha ......RAOTFLMAO...
David Vaughan
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ACT
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 06:20 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She was on a 45 degree descent?


By the way people, the word is "descent", not "decent". The latter is the antonym of "indecent" which might be regarded as a form of descent but perhaps not the one you first had in mind
Steven Nanevski
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New South Wales
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 07:04 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Smith wrote on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 06:08 pm:

And your getting T3g's .......Hahahaha.....kiss your licence good by hahaha you can't handle an excel let alone a soarer......hahaha gutter boy!




This coming from a person who has had alot of experience with gutters too, and has gone a big single too, we both share a pashion don't we

As for the license, not a first
Jeff Smith
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NSW
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Friday, November 02, 2007 - 08:22 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hahaha well I have one up on you as I havn't lost my licence yet.......Fingers crossed.
Alen Sadikovic
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Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 12:30 am, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steven Nanevski wrote on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:45 pm:

I was busted doing 74 in a 50 zone




hehe sounds like a P=plater driver haha
two more points and you'll be joining me on good behaviour bond lol

anyways good luck with things
Ryan McDonough
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NSW
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Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 02:29 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Smith wrote on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 08:22 pm:

Hahaha well I have one up on you as I havn't lost my licence yet




You are going to have to been a very good boy ones you get your car tuned!
Ryan Rankovic
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Victoria
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Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 07:59 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Luke Barnes wrote on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 07:30 am:

I represented myself when i went to fight a Lisence Suspension.




if youre in vic, dont bother trying this.

last time i was in court i was watching the amount of people trying to get out of a suspension and the judge said to all of them, "the rules have changed and you cant avoid your suspension, youre wasting your time"

i really wouldnt bother taking it to court, i doubt you will see a positive result and will end up having to fork out more $$$ in the end

but its your choice
Steven Nanevski
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New South Wales
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Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:23 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like I might be loosing it for the second time now, after checking my demerit points online
Braden Murdoch
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NSW
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Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 03:09 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In NSW even if you succeed at having your fine overturned, they still take the points off your license...what is the point of fighting it in court then!
Adrain Parsons
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Qld
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Friday, November 09, 2007 - 12:28 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

as far as i see it , if you speed in a 50-60 zone your a tool!! kids walk our streets!! i have hoons doing 100+ PAST MY HOUSE IN A 50KM ZONE!! tools tools tools. thay deserve to have the licence taken!
Steven Nanevski
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Friday, November 09, 2007 - 06:06 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Adrain Parsons wrote on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 12:28 pm:

as far as i see it , if you speed in a 50-60 zone your a tool!! kids walk our streets!! i have hoons doing 100+ PAST MY HOUSE IN A 50KM ZONE!! tools tools tools. thay deserve to have the licence taken!




Ok you can settle down now, easy tiger, if your that concerned about people doing 100 clicks down your street, do something about it. We had the samething on my street a couple of years back, we got together in our street and had a discussion. Final vote everyone was pi55ed off about it, so we knew who they were, each time we heard someone speed down our street we kept a eye out (because you could hear them in the adjacent street coming back around and every single person on the street rang the cops. They were down in 5 minutes with 2 patrol cars. This happened for a period for 2/3 months, eventually the people got the picture, hasn't happened since.
Bottom line is less talk more action, don't whinge about it act on it. Just hope you have friendly neighbours like I do anyway.

As for my license, I haven't lost it RTA update their database every quarter online, so I'm sweet for now touch wood.
Josh Coleman
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Tasmania, Australia
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Friday, November 09, 2007 - 07:08 pm, by:  Josh Coleman (Rampnt_lexxtc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

someone needs to ride their brakes like an old lady

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